Lost Dutchman Goldmine

Interesting posts. I do though note that my experiences in the supes are different in a couple of respects..

My expereince is that buzzards have a goal to find food, land and eat it not to just stare at it from up in the air. They can be startled, fly up and circle waiting for the intruder to ...

The show certainly has some great scenery.

Some of the dangers they think they are facing (black helipcopters, gun shots, people following them, black hand types, lights at night, lost radio communications in slot canyons) and their reaction to them strikes me as over-acting. Maybe that is the ...

Two parts of the Cox directions sure struck me as highly supect.

"The crumbling abutments of two long-vanquished bridges are passed". Anybody seen any bridge remains or even a crossing where it would make sense to have built a bridge, let alone two of them?

"Then the canyon widens out to a brushy ...

Mike McChesney, thanks for the response. For the record I didn't wonder why the stone maps weren't analyzed in AZ. Instead I wanted to know why they were analyzed at all. Your response about the antiquity and fraud cases has gone a long way towards filling in the great gaps in my knowledge.

Like I ...

Why would the FBI have tested the stones? They don't just test things for the fun of it do they? Therefore there would have to have been a federal crime (clearly not a state crime or Corbin would have sent or at least known of the stone(s) being sent for analysis beforehand) being investigated. If ...

[quote="Joe Ribaudo"]Buscar, . . .

Let's assume that Harry and Ted De Grazia were friends. Ted comes back from Mexico with a map and a story of buried treasure. He searches the Superstitions for that treasure and finds nothing.

Over a few stiff drinks, . . .


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What about if ...

"The real problem has always been that no one wants to speak up. Seeing what happens when I do, may be the reason behind that lack of backbone."

Joe's comment is certainly is one take. Another, and the one I subscibe to, is there is nothing to be gained from arguing with an idiot. As the saying ...

Would a treasure hunter really have a packer take him to THE exact spot? Or, would he have himself packed just close enough to leave a lot of doubt as to the location of the treasure? Point being Gassler could be packed in and still be walking around quite a bit.

Also, if you are a packer would you ...

[quote="Joe Ribaudo"]Jesse,

That was a great piece of Superstition History. Thank you.

On the other hand :) , you did not make me feel any better, as I found out a few months ago that I had Diabetes. :(

Take care,

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FWIW a couple friends of mine got the diabetes diagnosis a couple of ...

[quote="Joe Ribaudo"]Peter,

Why take any sample in at all? Mr. Gassler was no dummy. If he found an outcroping of gold ore, would he pull his sample out.....No match? I'm out of here. :lol:


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Sure, if he is staring at the vein from inches away he could see the gold (i.e. doesn ...

While two posts about hiking in the heat isn't much of a rant, I too am back to normal mode with no hard feelings.

Bill711 I never said I am some sort of superman. Sure I hike during the summer and in the heat. So what? Other people work in even greater heat (e.g. roofers, carpenters, etc) five days a week. Similarly, hard pedaling bicycle riders are likely facing hotter and more dangerous conditions than ...

[quote="bill711"]Say it loud and clear ZEN. NO one but a STUPID, NUT, OF AN IDIOT would go into the SUP,S in the HOT WEATHER ! I sure wouldn,t want them for pardners too careless. They will gamble and then leave their bones on some trail for others to find some day.While I sit here 8) . bill 8 ...

It depends on the definition of total. For example, I will not be getting in on the "opportunity" to get hundres of billions of dollars in the Phillipines. So I guess that is something I am "missing" and keeping me from being total.
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Yeah, I guess being a hiker passing through there would be no reason for any such group member to approach me. Presumably they would be dressed as any other hiker when doing their surveillance work. Thus, I would have no reason to remember seeing them. Only when they were making a show of force ...

As soon as I get a large inheritance a new friend in Nigeria found for me I will be more than happy to invest in your project. I am sure since you have already only found "several hundred billion dollars " you must really be tight for funds. or not.

[quote="Joe Ribaudo"]Walker,

This is a topic for which you seem to have a great deal to say. It's been awhile since you have posted about anything. What is there about this topic which has peaked your interest? Are you an Apache?

Thanks for your comments. I hope you will stay involved ...

Joe just because you saw some guys in black that doesn't prove the existence of a Legion. Nor does it disprove it. It only proves their fashion choice that day.

Same for a person telling you they were threatened by some guys in black. By definition they couldn't have said they are part of a secret ...

[quote="Joe Ribaudo"]

The Black Legion was the reason that Ed Piper had to leave the Superstitions once every year. The reason that he had to leave, was because the Apache were moving gold to a special location.
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Joe, your quote above does beg the question - Was Piper looking for the gold ...

Mapserver/Maptech has free topo maps on the web. Here is one from an earlier post - http://mapserver.maptech.com/homepage/index.cfm?lat=33.49387&lon=-111.22178000000001&scale=24000&zoom=50&type=1&icon=0&width=498&height=498&searchscope=dom&CFID=1427338&CFTOKEN=77437916&scriptfile=http://mapserver ...

[quote="murphy"]Joe
I think the Military Trail does play a part in the search, but deciding which trail is the problem. I am trying to plot the 3 Military trails from the 1867 map in Dr. Glover's book. Do you know where the Frog Tanks are? I could not locate this site on my topo map. I assume the ...

Haven't ever done it myself but I knew several people who have climbed Weaver's Needle at night. They did if for the challenge and to avoid the heat of the day.

IIRC they said there are only a few true climbing spots. Most of these spots had very solid and old looking belay anchors . I never asked ...

How to tell a permanent water source in the desert? I assume by knowing your vegetation. For example, willows don't last long without near permanent moisture. Cottonwoods last longer but probably not more than a month or two depending on the time of the year.

As noted, what was a permanent spring ...

Ditto what Peter said with one exception and one emphasis. The exception is that I really don't avoid any posters and I only avoid topics where I have little if anything to add (which is most topics). Also, I really agree with the part about the "history of the mystery". In fact I never look for ...

Thanks for the reply.

Again my $.02 is that the more such explanations/details you can provide in your book, the better a read it will likely be.

Keep up the good work and best of luck in your research.