Knun,
I'd like you to quote me directly from the original string of posts calling the LDM site anything. I only got into this after your stupid ass started playing a game of semantics with three words. Come on, let's see the quote.
Here is my original point, in case your having trouble with your memory
"In my opinion, and that is all I have to offer, I don't think it is appropriate to "destroy" anything in order go looking for the Dutchman, or to find it either. Whether it's a "sensitive ecological site" or the park benches, I just don't see why anything needs to be destroyed in order to locate a hole in the ground. Of course, there are those who don't know the difference from their own ass, but what can you do. "
It must be very difficult to be as stupid as you are. I would probably be angry and confused too, if I were that stupid.
Fuck off!!!
Critter
Say it ain't so, Joe.
Welll well well.
Here ya' go doper:
This is from your last post:
Where do you clowns come up with this stuff???
Look it's OK to switch to another topic. This has got to be getting painful for you. Hey, if your wrong your wrong. Everyone is at some point.
We,ve psoted on this for a month and time can't make your mistake right. Just move on to something else.
Even though we are probably the only people reading this drival I'll stick with you if you want to continue this. But let's move to something else. This is getting old.
Remember that? Of course not.I'm actually surprised that anyone would answer "yes" to this question. Let us not forget that the Dutchman's Mine itself is a sensitive ecological site. I would also hope that anyone contributing to this site, or actually endeavoring to search for this location, would only do so in an effort to preserve its heritage for every American.
This is from your last post:
Back at you. The LDM is a sensitive ecological site? Do you actually know what the word ecological means? By the way your the angry one. I called bullshit on Pissant's poll and the post you made referenced above.I have nothing to prove. Your the asshat that get's all flustered trying to be right just to be right. Must suck thinking you have all the answers only to be proven wrong time after time.It must be very difficult to be as stupid as you are. I would probably be angry and confused too, if I were that stupid.
Where do you clowns come up with this stuff???
Look it's OK to switch to another topic. This has got to be getting painful for you. Hey, if your wrong your wrong. Everyone is at some point.
We,ve psoted on this for a month and time can't make your mistake right. Just move on to something else.
Even though we are probably the only people reading this drival I'll stick with you if you want to continue this. But let's move to something else. This is getting old.
PWP the Pissant!
Pissant,
I see you've finally decided to move on.
Good for you. Learn from that.
OK,
We're back to the war. A favorite of the ultralib's and our little socialist and his friends.
I'll have to go back to the question I asked the socialist. What of the jihadists? Are they warmongers?
I know it's tough for you party guys to remember things but I've already asked this once. So I'll start again with you. Are the jihadists warmongers?
Do you pay taxes?
This is so unfair. LOL
I see you've finally decided to move on.
Good for you. Learn from that.
OK,
We're back to the war. A favorite of the ultralib's and our little socialist and his friends.
I'll have to go back to the question I asked the socialist. What of the jihadists? Are they warmongers?
I know it's tough for you party guys to remember things but I've already asked this once. So I'll start again with you. Are the jihadists warmongers?
Do you pay taxes?
This is so unfair. LOL
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so....tisk tisk...
i ran a poll on who thought the superstition wilderness area is a sensitive ecological zone.
lol @u fool...outside of treasure and old west magazines, everything written about that zone mentions it's diversity, how fragile, and deadly that area is.
your position is much like bush in the first election, claiming victory when all the evidence said otherwise.
good job following the rove handbook.
the U.S. has had a mercenary army since nam...they are warmongers...it is what everyone of them has chosen to do...kill for congress.
i am sure the meager education you have serves you well...
to date, you have still not posted one fact to back up the bizarre position you have chosen.
you have not responded in any fashion but to deride, and declare victory.
i bet you claim to be a christian.
typical political method chosen by those without honor or morals. just like punkassjoe.
not really surprising from a fuckin idiot.
i ran a poll on who thought the superstition wilderness area is a sensitive ecological zone.
lol @u fool...outside of treasure and old west magazines, everything written about that zone mentions it's diversity, how fragile, and deadly that area is.
your position is much like bush in the first election, claiming victory when all the evidence said otherwise.
good job following the rove handbook.
the U.S. has had a mercenary army since nam...they are warmongers...it is what everyone of them has chosen to do...kill for congress.
i am sure the meager education you have serves you well...
to date, you have still not posted one fact to back up the bizarre position you have chosen.
you have not responded in any fashion but to deride, and declare victory.
i bet you claim to be a christian.
typical political method chosen by those without honor or morals. just like punkassjoe.
not really surprising from a fuckin idiot.
Knun
I too, have concluded Knun is a fucking idiot.
And indeed, it is unfair,
that so many innocent lives have been snuffed out by shitbags like Knun.
Knun has no respect for life, whether human or otherwise. He has no respect for man or nature. Excuses are more important than integrity, of which Knun has none.
Yes, Knun...
you are a warmonger, and a disgrace to your country.
Brad
And indeed, it is unfair,
that so many innocent lives have been snuffed out by shitbags like Knun.
Knun has no respect for life, whether human or otherwise. He has no respect for man or nature. Excuses are more important than integrity, of which Knun has none.
Yes, Knun...
you are a warmonger, and a disgrace to your country.
Brad
Pissant hello?
Pissant,
You guys really have to lay off the dope! You can't even remember what your poll was about or even bother to look.
The title of your bullshit poll was:
Your question was:
You did not ask:
Shitter can't remeber what he posted yet is still defending a position he can't remember. Now you, lol, defending a poll question you didn't post.
You guys are like Cheech and Chong! A laugh a minute! "Dave's not here, man." Priceless!
You guys really have to lay off the dope! You can't even remember what your poll was about or even bother to look.
The title of your bullshit poll was:
Far enough topic you obviously forgot you posted.Moral behavior and treasure hunting
Your question was:
Total leading lib bullshit poll question based on no facts at all. Hence this dissection of you and your friends. Over and over.do you believe destroying sensitive ecological zones appropriate behavior to "discover" the dutchman
You did not ask:
HELLO! This is getting lame!i ran a poll on who thought the superstition wilderness area is a sensitive ecological zone.
Shitter can't remeber what he posted yet is still defending a position he can't remember. Now you, lol, defending a poll question you didn't post.
You guys are like Cheech and Chong! A laugh a minute! "Dave's not here, man." Priceless!
The little socialist returns!
How's your handler doing?
So how many warmonger jihadists are out there little socialist?
You admitted they are warmongers but simply ignore that evil in the world. Why is that? Because your a simple little tool that's why.
Why do you chose to ignore this question? This is the third time I asked you this but you've never bothered to even try and skate the question let alone answer it.
Didn't you and your handler talk about answering these types of questions? They're so messy for you, I think a little preperation would be in order.
You still paying your taxes little man?
This is fun! As you bait me I just continue to have my way with you.
Come on Puffer!
So how many warmonger jihadists are out there little socialist?
You admitted they are warmongers but simply ignore that evil in the world. Why is that? Because your a simple little tool that's why.
Why do you chose to ignore this question? This is the third time I asked you this but you've never bothered to even try and skate the question let alone answer it.
Didn't you and your handler talk about answering these types of questions? They're so messy for you, I think a little preperation would be in order.
You still paying your taxes little man?
This is fun! As you bait me I just continue to have my way with you.
Come on Puffer!
Classic dope induced logic. lol
I love this one from you little man.
Thank you! Your right I don't have excuses. No need.
What a doped up socialist fool.
Excuses are more important than integrity, of which Knun has none.
Thank you! Your right I don't have excuses. No need.
What a doped up socialist fool.
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Keeping sucking the shit, Knun, here's the straw...
No Knun, I'm right here...
In response to your post, the LDM and the entire Sonoran Desert are two different things now aren't they? My point is that I was specific, you have been general. I've already shown my evidence that the Sonoran Desert qualifies under the general terms of a "sensitive ecological zone", but you've dismissed it out of hand. Probably because you can't think of any way to argue with it. I still haven't seen your facts and I must conclude that is because you don't have any.
The truth is that you could use any terminology you want to ask a simple question. Use of the term "sensitive ecological zone" is simply meant to generally describe a type of setting. You could use the word "precious natural habitat" or "vulnerable desert environment". None of these terms are used to define anything specific, but to provide a framework from which to pose a simple question... Would you destroy it in order the find the LDM?
The main point, which has been completely lost on you, is whether or not it is appropriate to destroy the natural order in order to find the LDM. You all know my point of view. I take it you voted "yes" on that and you're just trying to poke holes in the question in order to justify what is a stupid and disgusting response.
Furthermore, you've already admitted that you agree with the three of us so I really don't understand why you've let this one sit for so long only to dredge it up with some rather egotistical and absurd remarks mixed in with some really stupid diatribe and incoherent blather. I suggest you take a moment to reflect on what your real position is on the preservation of our natural and cultural resources before you come crying to us about unfair questioning.
Fuck off, Knun...
oh, and Joe, it's unanimous, Fuck off!
Critter
In response to your post, the LDM and the entire Sonoran Desert are two different things now aren't they? My point is that I was specific, you have been general. I've already shown my evidence that the Sonoran Desert qualifies under the general terms of a "sensitive ecological zone", but you've dismissed it out of hand. Probably because you can't think of any way to argue with it. I still haven't seen your facts and I must conclude that is because you don't have any.
The truth is that you could use any terminology you want to ask a simple question. Use of the term "sensitive ecological zone" is simply meant to generally describe a type of setting. You could use the word "precious natural habitat" or "vulnerable desert environment". None of these terms are used to define anything specific, but to provide a framework from which to pose a simple question... Would you destroy it in order the find the LDM?
The main point, which has been completely lost on you, is whether or not it is appropriate to destroy the natural order in order to find the LDM. You all know my point of view. I take it you voted "yes" on that and you're just trying to poke holes in the question in order to justify what is a stupid and disgusting response.
Furthermore, you've already admitted that you agree with the three of us so I really don't understand why you've let this one sit for so long only to dredge it up with some rather egotistical and absurd remarks mixed in with some really stupid diatribe and incoherent blather. I suggest you take a moment to reflect on what your real position is on the preservation of our natural and cultural resources before you come crying to us about unfair questioning.
Fuck off, Knun...
oh, and Joe, it's unanimous, Fuck off!
Critter
Critter
Your totally wrong. Words have meaning.
When you said the LDM was a sensitive ecological zone that had meaning. You asked me to prove my assertions. I did that. Now we're onto some other rant. To what end? You we're wrong...be a man and admit it.
As you backpedal I wonder why all the effort when you've been proven wrong? Why is that?
I'm really getting bored proving you asshats wrong. Then you dopers try and change things. So be it.
I'm out of here. You guys have fun.
When you said the LDM was a sensitive ecological zone that had meaning. You asked me to prove my assertions. I did that. Now we're onto some other rant. To what end? You we're wrong...be a man and admit it.
As you backpedal I wonder why all the effort when you've been proven wrong? Why is that?
I'm really getting bored proving you asshats wrong. Then you dopers try and change things. So be it.
I'm out of here. You guys have fun.
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Piss and run
Declare victory without the evidence and then run away. Sounds familiar.
The only place you've proven anything is in your simple little mind.
Still having trouble justifying that "yes" vote, Knun? Don't blame you.
This time maybe you'll fuck off for good!!
Critter
The only place you've proven anything is in your simple little mind.
Still having trouble justifying that "yes" vote, Knun? Don't blame you.
This time maybe you'll fuck off for good!!
Critter
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Knun can't remember shit, but he sure can suck it!
Just one more thing, lest we forget...You are the one who dredged this topic up. Take some responsibility for your actions, it would be a nice change of pace.
Now, Fuck off!
Oh, and Joe, it's unanimous, you can Fuck off!
Critter
Now, Fuck off!
Oh, and Joe, it's unanimous, you can Fuck off!
Critter
The Truth
Former White House press secretary Scott McClellan's memoir about his time at the Bush White House turns out to be far more scathing than predicted, Politico's Mike Allen writes.
In his "What Happened: Inside the Bush White House and Washington’s Culture of Deception" (Public Affairs, $27.95), McClellan writes about the war in Iraq that President Bush "and his advisers confused the propaganda campaign with the high level of candor and honesty so fundamentally needed to build and then sustain public support during a time of war. … n this regard, he was terribly ill-served by his top advisers, especially those involved directly in national security."
The White House "spent most of the first week in a state of denial" after Hurricane Katrina, McClellan writes. "One of the worst disasters in our nation’s history became one of the biggest disasters in Bush’s presidency. Katrina and the botched federal response to it would largely come to define Bush’s second term. And the perception of this catastrophe was made worse by previous decisions President Bush had made, including, first and foremost, the failure to be open and forthright on Iraq and rushing to war with inadequate planning and preparation for its aftermath."
He hammers former senior presidential advisers Karl Rove and Scooter Libby for having "at best misled" him about their roles in the leak of CIA operative Valerie Plame's name as retaliation to a negative op-ed against Bush from Plame's husband, former Ambassador Joe Wilson. "(T)he top White House officials who knew the truth -- including Rove, Libby, and possibly Vice President Cheney -- allowed me, even encouraged me, to repeat a lie," McClellan writes. "I had allowed myself to be deceived into unknowingly passing along a falsehood. It would ultimately prove fatal to my ability to serve the president effectively. I didn’t learn that what I’d said was untrue until the media began to figure it out almost two years later."
In his "What Happened: Inside the Bush White House and Washington’s Culture of Deception" (Public Affairs, $27.95), McClellan writes about the war in Iraq that President Bush "and his advisers confused the propaganda campaign with the high level of candor and honesty so fundamentally needed to build and then sustain public support during a time of war. … n this regard, he was terribly ill-served by his top advisers, especially those involved directly in national security."
The White House "spent most of the first week in a state of denial" after Hurricane Katrina, McClellan writes. "One of the worst disasters in our nation’s history became one of the biggest disasters in Bush’s presidency. Katrina and the botched federal response to it would largely come to define Bush’s second term. And the perception of this catastrophe was made worse by previous decisions President Bush had made, including, first and foremost, the failure to be open and forthright on Iraq and rushing to war with inadequate planning and preparation for its aftermath."
He hammers former senior presidential advisers Karl Rove and Scooter Libby for having "at best misled" him about their roles in the leak of CIA operative Valerie Plame's name as retaliation to a negative op-ed against Bush from Plame's husband, former Ambassador Joe Wilson. "(T)he top White House officials who knew the truth -- including Rove, Libby, and possibly Vice President Cheney -- allowed me, even encouraged me, to repeat a lie," McClellan writes. "I had allowed myself to be deceived into unknowingly passing along a falsehood. It would ultimately prove fatal to my ability to serve the president effectively. I didn’t learn that what I’d said was untrue until the media began to figure it out almost two years later."
Knun
Knun,
face it. The only thing you proved is that you have no respect for the truth. You are a fucking scumbag.
Just lay your cards on the table and be done with it. Just admit that you wouldn't hesitate to destroy an historical site if you thought it contained treasure you could run off with. That is the kind of person you are.
Obviously, you got pummeled by the truth, and waggled away, tail between your cowardly legs. Good riddance.
Brad
face it. The only thing you proved is that you have no respect for the truth. You are a fucking scumbag.
Just lay your cards on the table and be done with it. Just admit that you wouldn't hesitate to destroy an historical site if you thought it contained treasure you could run off with. That is the kind of person you are.
Obviously, you got pummeled by the truth, and waggled away, tail between your cowardly legs. Good riddance.
Brad
Self-deception
President Bush “convinces himself to believe what suits his needs at the moment,” and has engaged in “self-deception” to justify his political ends, Scott McClellan, the former White House press secretary, writes in a critical new memoir about his years in the West Wing.
Wow!
How weird. That's precisely the same way Joe and Knun behave.
To know the breed is to know the dog.
Brad
Wow!
How weird. That's precisely the same way Joe and Knun behave.
To know the breed is to know the dog.
Brad
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it is the rove handbook, by the numbers.
Machiavelli lives.
one of the shortest texts ever scribed...and the most destructive to human social stability.
when 9-11 occurred, i told folks it smelled of the Reichstag's fire.
just who profited from 9-11?
since bush entered the white house, myself and others who have used their brain, followed the evidence, and concluded the " war for profit diplomacy" of the white house would lead to ill effect, have been continually insulted, attacked, told to move to Canada...
typical john birch society bull shit...
now here we are...4,000+ kia...50,000+ mental issues...god knows how many iraqi...
trillons of dollars wasted...
people loosing homes they have paid on for years...(include me as of the 1st.)
petro prices beyond belief...due to speculators buying oil futures...not access to crude.
food prices unstable...(blame the liberals taking all the corn for alternative fuels...)
the list of harmful effects of the bush administration/military industrialized complex are too numerous to mention in a chat room.
thank god i am crazie... whats that song..." i don't care... what you do?..."
'i wouldn't want to be like you....'
Machiavelli lives.
one of the shortest texts ever scribed...and the most destructive to human social stability.
when 9-11 occurred, i told folks it smelled of the Reichstag's fire.
just who profited from 9-11?
since bush entered the white house, myself and others who have used their brain, followed the evidence, and concluded the " war for profit diplomacy" of the white house would lead to ill effect, have been continually insulted, attacked, told to move to Canada...
typical john birch society bull shit...
now here we are...4,000+ kia...50,000+ mental issues...god knows how many iraqi...
trillons of dollars wasted...
people loosing homes they have paid on for years...(include me as of the 1st.)
petro prices beyond belief...due to speculators buying oil futures...not access to crude.
food prices unstable...(blame the liberals taking all the corn for alternative fuels...)
the list of harmful effects of the bush administration/military industrialized complex are too numerous to mention in a chat room.
thank god i am crazie... whats that song..." i don't care... what you do?..."
'i wouldn't want to be like you....'
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Inciteful Stuff
Testify, My Brother, Testify!
Critter
Critter
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Another Testament......
In honor of all our veterans, past, present and future:
YOU COULD HEAR A PIN DROP
When in England at a fairly large conference, Colin Powell was asked by
the Archbishop of Canterbury if our plans for Iraq were just an example
of empire building' by George Bush.
He answered by saying, 'Over the years, the United States has sent many
of its fine young men and women into great peril to fight for freedom
beyond our borders. The only amount of land we have ever asked for in
return is enough to bury those that did not return.
You could have heard a pin drop.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Then there was a conference in France where a number of international
engineers were taking part, including French and American. During a
break one of the French engineers came back into the room saying 'Have
you heard the latest dumb stunt Bush has done? He has sent an aircraft
carrier to Indonesia to help the tsunami victims. What does he intended
to do, bomb them?' A Boeing engineer stood up and replied quietly: 'Our
carriers have three hospitals on board that can treat several hundred
people; they are nuclear powered and can supply emergency electrical
power to shore facilities; they have three cafeterias with the capacity
to feed 3,000 people three meals a day, they can produce several
thousand gallons of fresh water from sea water each day, and they carry
half a dozen helicopters for use in transporting victims and injured to
and from their flight deck.. We have eleven such ships; how many does
France have?'
You could have heard a pin drop.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
A U.S. Navy Admiral was attending a naval conference that included
Admirals from the U.S. , English, Canadian, Australian and French
Navies. At a cocktail reception, he found himself standing with a large
group of Officers that included personnel from most of those countries.
Everyone was chatting away in English as they sipped their drinks but a
French admiral suddenly complained that, 'whereas Europeans learn many
languages, Americans learn only English.' He then asked, 'Why is it that
we always have to speak English in these conferences rather than
speaking French?' Without hesitating, the American Admiral replied
'Maybe it's because the Brits, Canadians, Aussies and Americans arranged
it so you wouldn't have to speak German.'
You could have heard a pin drop.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
AND THIS STORY FITS RIGHT IN WITH THE ABOVE...
A group of Americans, retired teachers, recently went to France on a
tour.
Robert Whiting, an elderly gentleman of 83, arrived in Paris by plane.
At French Customs, he took a few minutes to locate his passport in his
carry on. 'You have been to France before, monsieur?' the customs
officer asked sarcastically. Mr. Whiting admitted that he had been to
France previously. 'Then you should know enough to have your passport
ready.' The American said, 'The last time I was here, I didn't have to
show it.' 'Impossible. Americans always have to show your passports on
arrival in France !' The American senior gave the Frenchman a long hard
look. Then he quietly explained. 'Well, when I came ashore at Omaha
Beach on D-Day in '44 to help liberate this country, I couldn't find any
Frenchmen to show it to.'
You could have heard a pin drop
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
What Is A Veteran?
A 'Veteran' -- whether active duty, discharged, retired, or reserve --
is someone who, at one point in his life, wrote a blank check made
payable to 'The United States of America,' for an amount of 'up to, and
including his life.'
That is honor, and there are way too many people in this country today,
who no longer understand that fact.
YOU COULD HEAR A PIN DROP
When in England at a fairly large conference, Colin Powell was asked by
the Archbishop of Canterbury if our plans for Iraq were just an example
of empire building' by George Bush.
He answered by saying, 'Over the years, the United States has sent many
of its fine young men and women into great peril to fight for freedom
beyond our borders. The only amount of land we have ever asked for in
return is enough to bury those that did not return.
You could have heard a pin drop.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Then there was a conference in France where a number of international
engineers were taking part, including French and American. During a
break one of the French engineers came back into the room saying 'Have
you heard the latest dumb stunt Bush has done? He has sent an aircraft
carrier to Indonesia to help the tsunami victims. What does he intended
to do, bomb them?' A Boeing engineer stood up and replied quietly: 'Our
carriers have three hospitals on board that can treat several hundred
people; they are nuclear powered and can supply emergency electrical
power to shore facilities; they have three cafeterias with the capacity
to feed 3,000 people three meals a day, they can produce several
thousand gallons of fresh water from sea water each day, and they carry
half a dozen helicopters for use in transporting victims and injured to
and from their flight deck.. We have eleven such ships; how many does
France have?'
You could have heard a pin drop.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
A U.S. Navy Admiral was attending a naval conference that included
Admirals from the U.S. , English, Canadian, Australian and French
Navies. At a cocktail reception, he found himself standing with a large
group of Officers that included personnel from most of those countries.
Everyone was chatting away in English as they sipped their drinks but a
French admiral suddenly complained that, 'whereas Europeans learn many
languages, Americans learn only English.' He then asked, 'Why is it that
we always have to speak English in these conferences rather than
speaking French?' Without hesitating, the American Admiral replied
'Maybe it's because the Brits, Canadians, Aussies and Americans arranged
it so you wouldn't have to speak German.'
You could have heard a pin drop.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
AND THIS STORY FITS RIGHT IN WITH THE ABOVE...
A group of Americans, retired teachers, recently went to France on a
tour.
Robert Whiting, an elderly gentleman of 83, arrived in Paris by plane.
At French Customs, he took a few minutes to locate his passport in his
carry on. 'You have been to France before, monsieur?' the customs
officer asked sarcastically. Mr. Whiting admitted that he had been to
France previously. 'Then you should know enough to have your passport
ready.' The American said, 'The last time I was here, I didn't have to
show it.' 'Impossible. Americans always have to show your passports on
arrival in France !' The American senior gave the Frenchman a long hard
look. Then he quietly explained. 'Well, when I came ashore at Omaha
Beach on D-Day in '44 to help liberate this country, I couldn't find any
Frenchmen to show it to.'
You could have heard a pin drop
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
What Is A Veteran?
A 'Veteran' -- whether active duty, discharged, retired, or reserve --
is someone who, at one point in his life, wrote a blank check made
payable to 'The United States of America,' for an amount of 'up to, and
including his life.'
That is honor, and there are way too many people in this country today,
who no longer understand that fact.
Bloody Murder
CAMP PENDLETON, Calif. (AP) — A Marine lieutenant accused of helping cover up a squad's killings of 24 Iraqi civilians faces a jury of all officers.
The panel of seven officers was to hear opening arguments Thursday in the court-martial of 1st Lt. Andrew Grayson, who is the first of three defendants in the case to go to trial.
Authorities maintain eight Marines killed the Iraqis shortly after a roadside bomb hit a convoy, killing the driver of a Humvee and wounding two Marines.
After the bombing, investigators say, Staff Sgt. Frank Wuterich and a squad member shot five men by a car at the scene. Wuterich then allegedly ordered his men into several houses, where they cleared rooms with grenades and gunfire, killing unarmed civilians.
The panel of seven officers was to hear opening arguments Thursday in the court-martial of 1st Lt. Andrew Grayson, who is the first of three defendants in the case to go to trial.
Authorities maintain eight Marines killed the Iraqis shortly after a roadside bomb hit a convoy, killing the driver of a Humvee and wounding two Marines.
After the bombing, investigators say, Staff Sgt. Frank Wuterich and a squad member shot five men by a car at the scene. Wuterich then allegedly ordered his men into several houses, where they cleared rooms with grenades and gunfire, killing unarmed civilians.
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PWP
PWP,
I am so sorry to learn about the loss of your home. There but by the grace of God go many among us. The economy has tanked.
Scott McClellan gets my vote for man of the year. What he has done requires immense courage.
However, I am surprised to learn that Bush once got busted for shoplifting while under the influence of cocaine.
You know, Joe...
I have never been in trouble a day in my life. I haven't had a moving violation in over twenty years. I have never been charged with a crime, and I sure a hell never got busted for shoplifting at Target. But then, Bush is your Commander in Chief, not mine.
Brad
I am so sorry to learn about the loss of your home. There but by the grace of God go many among us. The economy has tanked.
Scott McClellan gets my vote for man of the year. What he has done requires immense courage.
However, I am surprised to learn that Bush once got busted for shoplifting while under the influence of cocaine.
You know, Joe...
I have never been in trouble a day in my life. I haven't had a moving violation in over twenty years. I have never been charged with a crime, and I sure a hell never got busted for shoplifting at Target. But then, Bush is your Commander in Chief, not mine.
Brad
War Crimes
Here it goes,
I hope you are paying attention, Joe, because the legal experts are now suggesting that unless the Bush administration can successfully refute the accusations made by Scott McClellen, which so far no-one has been able to do, George W. Bush and several of his administration can expect to face charges of war crimes.
Face the facts, Joe...
you got lied to and used, just like Scott McClellen, and the damage has been devastating.
Brad
I hope you are paying attention, Joe, because the legal experts are now suggesting that unless the Bush administration can successfully refute the accusations made by Scott McClellen, which so far no-one has been able to do, George W. Bush and several of his administration can expect to face charges of war crimes.
Face the facts, Joe...
you got lied to and used, just like Scott McClellen, and the damage has been devastating.
Brad