Hello folks
Today is the 167th anniversary of the Fall of the Alamo. In todays world, might do some of us some good to reflect on the principles upon which this nation was founded...and upon the liberties that many of us take for granted. Liberty comes with a price tag.
No apologies for this post. If it offends...too bad.
Let freedom ring
P
Happy Alamo Day
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Joe Ribaudo
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The Tree of Liberty
Peter, Wiz and Aurum,
There are always brave Americans willing to risk everything in the cause of freedom. I know that Aurum has taken that risk, and we are all grateful for his service to this country. This is very difficult for me to write at this time, so I will end it with this quote; "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants." From Thomas Jefferson in a letter from Paris in 1787.
Joe
There are always brave Americans willing to risk everything in the cause of freedom. I know that Aurum has taken that risk, and we are all grateful for his service to this country. This is very difficult for me to write at this time, so I will end it with this quote; "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants." From Thomas Jefferson in a letter from Paris in 1787.
Joe
happy Alamo day
Right on Joe and Peter. Our freedoms are fast disappearing and I shutter to think what we as Americans will have left in not too distant future. We are all being used as pawns and it is disgusting. So be it for my imput on this subject. Sorry for the wrong posting I was doing on the other topic. Please once again forgive my lack of knowledge on computers, although it has been by choice ,and I want to remain that way. At least I still have that freedom.
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Something I can post to without people wondering if I'm a Black Clothed DLM Hunter/Protector!!
Regardless of your opinion on if our being in Iraq is the right thing to do or not, PLEASE remember that it is our countries sons, daughters, husbands, wives, fathers, and mothers that are over there, doing what they are ordered to do because it is their job. I wouldn't doubt there are those that lie in their cot at night, unable to sleep because they are scared shitless of what the next day may bring. Are we there because of past terrorist acts? Are we there because of our intrests in the regions oil? Are we there for some other veiled reason in order to direct the course of history in that area? I don't know. I only know I am not actually there, but thousands of our family members, friends and neighbors are. Every day. They aren't getting up to go to their job at the office, they aren't planning a weekend dinner and a movie, they aren't doing any of the things that so many of us take for granted on a daily basis. Unlike many foreign contries, our men and women in uniform haven't joined up to fight for a religious belief, or out of fear of a countries tyrannical leadership, but simply freedom in general, another thing too many of us take for granted. The acts of 9/11 are horrific, and images of that day will forever stay in many of our minds until the day we die. I feel much of that is simply because we have never seen that type of destruction on our home soil. Imagine living in one of the many countries where bombings, machine gun fire, and the oppression of what we regard as "rights" as individuals is a regular occurance. Planes on daily bombing runs over Chicago? Groups of dozens of machine gun toting gunmen taking over a suburb of Dallas? Daily beheadings in the Town Square of Orlando for those that speak out against our countries leadersip? G.W. Bush may have various reasons for our involvement in the ongoing situation in Iraq, and I don't know if I support him or not. I doubt that many Americans will ever know all of the details of why our men and women are there right now, regardless of what information the government wants to let us hear. All I know for sure, is that I have a friend that isn't going to be home next month to see his first son be born, or to see his daughters 4th birthday. Or the important stuff, like our pool league on Wednesdays or having a beer while we watch the race on Sunday afternoon. Say what you may about us being there, if it's right or wrong, but please, lend your support to the actual people that are there. I miss ya, Bud.
Regardless of your opinion on if our being in Iraq is the right thing to do or not, PLEASE remember that it is our countries sons, daughters, husbands, wives, fathers, and mothers that are over there, doing what they are ordered to do because it is their job. I wouldn't doubt there are those that lie in their cot at night, unable to sleep because they are scared shitless of what the next day may bring. Are we there because of past terrorist acts? Are we there because of our intrests in the regions oil? Are we there for some other veiled reason in order to direct the course of history in that area? I don't know. I only know I am not actually there, but thousands of our family members, friends and neighbors are. Every day. They aren't getting up to go to their job at the office, they aren't planning a weekend dinner and a movie, they aren't doing any of the things that so many of us take for granted on a daily basis. Unlike many foreign contries, our men and women in uniform haven't joined up to fight for a religious belief, or out of fear of a countries tyrannical leadership, but simply freedom in general, another thing too many of us take for granted. The acts of 9/11 are horrific, and images of that day will forever stay in many of our minds until the day we die. I feel much of that is simply because we have never seen that type of destruction on our home soil. Imagine living in one of the many countries where bombings, machine gun fire, and the oppression of what we regard as "rights" as individuals is a regular occurance. Planes on daily bombing runs over Chicago? Groups of dozens of machine gun toting gunmen taking over a suburb of Dallas? Daily beheadings in the Town Square of Orlando for those that speak out against our countries leadersip? G.W. Bush may have various reasons for our involvement in the ongoing situation in Iraq, and I don't know if I support him or not. I doubt that many Americans will ever know all of the details of why our men and women are there right now, regardless of what information the government wants to let us hear. All I know for sure, is that I have a friend that isn't going to be home next month to see his first son be born, or to see his daughters 4th birthday. Or the important stuff, like our pool league on Wednesdays or having a beer while we watch the race on Sunday afternoon. Say what you may about us being there, if it's right or wrong, but please, lend your support to the actual people that are there. I miss ya, Bud.
Re: happy Alamo day
As an agent of the Computer Police/Strike Team (COMPOST), Ron, I'm afraid I'm going to have to ask you to step away from the keyboard and keep your mouse in plain sight.Ron wrote:Please once again forgive my lack of knowledge on computers, although it has been by choice ,and I want to remain that way. At least I still have that freedom.
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Herman Ehrenberg
Aurum,
Only a true student of Arizona history would know that Ehrenberg was one of only a few men who survived the massacre at Goliad. When the Texas war of independence started, he was in New Orleans and enlisted in the "New Orleans Grays" who were present at Fanning's defeat, according to J. Ross Browne, author of ADVENTURES IN THE APACHE COUNTRY, First printed in 1868. The book is an account of Browne's, as well Charles Poston's, trip from Los Angeles through Fort Yuma and into the heart of Arizona. It is quite an adventure. I am the proud owner of a first edition, second printing of this interesting, well illustrated (by the author) piece of Arizona, mostly, history. Browne gives the date of Ehrenberg's departure from St. Louis to Oregon as 1840. Ehrenberg was a friend of Charles Poston, as the two of them had survived the sinking of the British bark, Zoraida on a trip from San Francisco to the Gulf of California. Browne and Poston were long time friends, and I assume some of his information on Ehrenberg came from Poston.
Joe
Only a true student of Arizona history would know that Ehrenberg was one of only a few men who survived the massacre at Goliad. When the Texas war of independence started, he was in New Orleans and enlisted in the "New Orleans Grays" who were present at Fanning's defeat, according to J. Ross Browne, author of ADVENTURES IN THE APACHE COUNTRY, First printed in 1868. The book is an account of Browne's, as well Charles Poston's, trip from Los Angeles through Fort Yuma and into the heart of Arizona. It is quite an adventure. I am the proud owner of a first edition, second printing of this interesting, well illustrated (by the author) piece of Arizona, mostly, history. Browne gives the date of Ehrenberg's departure from St. Louis to Oregon as 1840. Ehrenberg was a friend of Charles Poston, as the two of them had survived the sinking of the British bark, Zoraida on a trip from San Francisco to the Gulf of California. Browne and Poston were long time friends, and I assume some of his information on Ehrenberg came from Poston.
Joe