A lady friend ask me to post this question -- She was in a chat room when the subject of the Lost Dutchmans mine came up . One of the people in the room claimed to have a letter from Jacob Waltz to his Great Grandfather concerning a mining claim in the Prescot area.
Does the name GEORGE WALTER ring any bells with you historians ???
Question about a name that came up
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Tracy L Hawkins
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Hi Tracy,
Where have you been? Hope you are well and have just been out raising hell. Did you make your trip into the mountains?
George Walter......That would be a tough find indeed. If he was Waltz's great grandfather, he probably died in Germany. If one of these guys comes up with any information that old, he is the king of research, hands down.
I am still interested in any old film or pictures you might have of Chuck. If you know how to contact Ernies daughter, she might have a box full. Ernie took a lot of pictures and had them on slides.
I met someone coming out of the mountains last March, who knew you guys. He was a short thin Mexican, and said you would know who he was.
I did not write his name down, but I could get it. He said he thought Ernie was still alive and visited his daughter from time to time.
Hope to hear more from you.
Respectfully,
Joe Ribaudo
Where have you been? Hope you are well and have just been out raising hell. Did you make your trip into the mountains?
George Walter......That would be a tough find indeed. If he was Waltz's great grandfather, he probably died in Germany. If one of these guys comes up with any information that old, he is the king of research, hands down.
I am still interested in any old film or pictures you might have of Chuck. If you know how to contact Ernies daughter, she might have a box full. Ernie took a lot of pictures and had them on slides.
I met someone coming out of the mountains last March, who knew you guys. He was a short thin Mexican, and said you would know who he was.
I did not write his name down, but I could get it. He said he thought Ernie was still alive and visited his daughter from time to time.
Hope to hear more from you.
Respectfully,
Joe Ribaudo
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Tracy L Hawkins
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George Walter
You misunderstod me Joe -- The guy Terri was talking to said his grandfathers name was George Walter and had been a partner with Waltz in a claim around Prescott. She sak me to post this to see if anyone recognized the name.
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Tracy,
That makes a lot more since. It's hell to get old.
I don't think there is any claim tied to Waltz, with George Walter's name on it. There are a lot of records for that time period and area which could be checked, however. Perhaps a complete list of the signers of the two petitions to the Governer seeking protection from the Apache might turn up the name.
I believe Waltz had three claims in the Prescott area with partners and one which he was the sole owner of. It would help if the name of the claim was in the letter.
It will be interesting to see if anyone can confirm the existence of Walter.
Good to see you back, Tracy.
Joe
That makes a lot more since. It's hell to get old.
I don't think there is any claim tied to Waltz, with George Walter's name on it. There are a lot of records for that time period and area which could be checked, however. Perhaps a complete list of the signers of the two petitions to the Governer seeking protection from the Apache might turn up the name.
I believe Waltz had three claims in the Prescott area with partners and one which he was the sole owner of. It would help if the name of the claim was in the letter.
It will be interesting to see if anyone can confirm the existence of Walter.
Good to see you back, Tracy.
Joe
George Walker Reference
Helen Corbin included a section of the Matt Cavaness Memoirs in her book, The Bible on the Lost Dutchman Gold Mine and Jabob Waltz. These memoirs cover the period of 1843 to 1929 and the title page to them on page 31 of the book says " The Matt Cavaness Memoirs contain references and information concerning the following Arizona Territorial pioneers:" and it then lists 18 names. Included in this list is one "George Walker". This might be your George Walter - names were not too accurate back in these old records and people wrote names down as they were pronounced.
You had posted earlier about Robert Jacob aka Crazy Jake. T.E. Glover had about 10 pages on Jake in his book, The Lost Dutchman Mine of Jacob Waltz. Don't know if you were aware of this or not. This book plus Helen's can be found at the Superstition Mtn Historical society at the below web site:
http://www.superstitionmountainmuseum.org/index.htm
Roger
You had posted earlier about Robert Jacob aka Crazy Jake. T.E. Glover had about 10 pages on Jake in his book, The Lost Dutchman Mine of Jacob Waltz. Don't know if you were aware of this or not. This book plus Helen's can be found at the Superstition Mtn Historical society at the below web site:
http://www.superstitionmountainmuseum.org/index.htm
Roger
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George Walker was only passing through Arizona on his way to Texas to sell "about one hundred head of fine horses". The party consisted of five men and a number of their women and children. Walker had ten thousand dollars in his wagon as did a Mr. Knight from Oregon. Cavaness put together a party of fifteen men to see them through the Apaches. Seems unlikely that this is Tracy's "George".
A much more likely suspect, would be George Warren who was a prospector in the mid to late eighteen hundreds in Arizona. I will not relate his story, but it is a great piece of the colorful history of Arizona. Anyone interested can find the story on page 230 of Marshall Trimble's excellent book: "Arizona".
Walker is, of course, a very famous name in the State's history but it is hard to change Joseph into George.
Perhaps we can get a little more information from Tracy's friend.
Respectfully,
Joe Ribaudo
George Walker was only passing through Arizona on his way to Texas to sell "about one hundred head of fine horses". The party consisted of five men and a number of their women and children. Walker had ten thousand dollars in his wagon as did a Mr. Knight from Oregon. Cavaness put together a party of fifteen men to see them through the Apaches. Seems unlikely that this is Tracy's "George".
A much more likely suspect, would be George Warren who was a prospector in the mid to late eighteen hundreds in Arizona. I will not relate his story, but it is a great piece of the colorful history of Arizona. Anyone interested can find the story on page 230 of Marshall Trimble's excellent book: "Arizona".
Walker is, of course, a very famous name in the State's history but it is hard to change Joseph into George.
Perhaps we can get a little more information from Tracy's friend.
Respectfully,
Joe Ribaudo