I have been on this Forum for several years. By and large the members have displayed a good decorum in terms of language and content although we tend to get a bit testy at times with each other. But we manage to work past that and continue to dialogue on the one topic in common - the Lost Dutchman.
Of late, there has been a marked increase of profanity in postings that are degrading to this Forum. I am not prudish and have uttered a "deleted expletive" more than once to be sure. However, the continual use of this language on the Forum seems to be a degradation of the "Quality" of the Forum and a bad reflection on its members.
A simple request: Can we clean it up some????
Roger
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Good Point
Roger,
Good post, good point.
Respectfully,
Joe
Good post, good point.
Respectfully,
Joe
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i agree most definitely with rogers statement /plea. it DOES seem to an outsider that theforum has of late descended a few notches and seems to be in danger of becoming the internet equivalent of a siberian sh..house wall with all the resulting vulgar inscriptions.its not just vulgar its also extremely childish.
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Speaking Your Mind
Peter,
While such a thought may have crossed my mind, I don't think it's an opinion I would want to voice. Having voiced my personal opinion a
number of times on this forum, I have found that it has seldom had a positive effect. It may work out better coming from you.
Respectfully,
Joe
While such a thought may have crossed my mind, I don't think it's an opinion I would want to voice. Having voiced my personal opinion a
number of times on this forum, I have found that it has seldom had a positive effect. It may work out better coming from you.
Respectfully,
Joe
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Leaving
OBS and Dude,
There is no need to leave the forum. You are welcome here. There are all kinds of forums available, and if you read back through some of the posts, you will find that a lot of serious information is exchanged here.
If you are interested in the LDM, or any other treasure that may exist in the Superstition Mountains, this is the place to discuss your ideas. We do joke and laugh, but most of the members are serious about this subject. Starting off the way you two did will not work with many of us. You might find things a little looser after we get to know you. On this site you are, pretty much, greenhorns until after you have paid a few dues.
I don't speak for the members of the forum. This is my own opinion on the general makeup of our group. As it is an opinion I could, of course, be wrong.
If you decide to leave, good luck and God speed.
Respectfully,
Joe Ribaudo
There is no need to leave the forum. You are welcome here. There are all kinds of forums available, and if you read back through some of the posts, you will find that a lot of serious information is exchanged here.
If you are interested in the LDM, or any other treasure that may exist in the Superstition Mountains, this is the place to discuss your ideas. We do joke and laugh, but most of the members are serious about this subject. Starting off the way you two did will not work with many of us. You might find things a little looser after we get to know you. On this site you are, pretty much, greenhorns until after you have paid a few dues.
I don't speak for the members of the forum. This is my own opinion on the general makeup of our group. As it is an opinion I could, of course, be wrong.
If you decide to leave, good luck and God speed.
Respectfully,
Joe Ribaudo
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I AM SO MISUNDERSTOOD!
Lazarus,
Thank you for your kind words. You just don't know me that well.
I can assure you that many on this forum have the opposite opinion, and not without reason. I have tried to change my natural tendency to be a little heavy-handed with my opinions and lighten up on my (very) dry humor.
Many of the members here tend to speak their minds, and those with thin skins will not find it to be smooth sailing. I take nothing really personal that is said here, unless the person knows me. I then assume it is the truth.
Thank's again.
Respectfully,
Joe
Thank you for your kind words. You just don't know me that well.
I can assure you that many on this forum have the opposite opinion, and not without reason. I have tried to change my natural tendency to be a little heavy-handed with my opinions and lighten up on my (very) dry humor.
Many of the members here tend to speak their minds, and those with thin skins will not find it to be smooth sailing. I take nothing really personal that is said here, unless the person knows me. I then assume it is the truth.
Thank's again.
Respectfully,
Joe
Picture Posting on Forum
I have missed a few posting over time. I did see some regarding a way to post pictures for the members. Is that set up and were is it?
Roger
Roger
Roger,
I'm afraid your well-intentioned post is doomed to go unheeded. All I see on this site any more is the flame-war mentality that has ruined so many other sites. It's no mystery to me why these days we rarely see postings from Aurum, yourself, SC, and others who actually know something. You guys are too intelligent, courteous, and mature to get pulled into the mean, childish little mud pit this site is rapidly becoming.
If you'd like to actually talk LDM without subjecting yourself to this irritating behaviour, PM me any time. I may or may not have anything interesting to say, but at least I can discuss the subject like an adult.
I fully expect to get flamed for this post. I don't really care. If someone is hoping to upset me with an insulting, childish response, save your breath.
- Wiz
I'm afraid your well-intentioned post is doomed to go unheeded. All I see on this site any more is the flame-war mentality that has ruined so many other sites. It's no mystery to me why these days we rarely see postings from Aurum, yourself, SC, and others who actually know something. You guys are too intelligent, courteous, and mature to get pulled into the mean, childish little mud pit this site is rapidly becoming.
If you'd like to actually talk LDM without subjecting yourself to this irritating behaviour, PM me any time. I may or may not have anything interesting to say, but at least I can discuss the subject like an adult.
I fully expect to get flamed for this post. I don't really care. If someone is hoping to upset me with an insulting, childish response, save your breath.
- Wiz
Guys,
the upside...
This site has indeed been around for years, and continues to attract new
viewers. Some of us are determined to learn the answers. Some of us...
Well, everyone has thier own agenda. I feel much better about this forum now than I did a week ago. I actually miss our buddy with the split personality...(I suspect OBS & Dude were the same guy). I think if he had settled down, he would have blended right in with the rest of us. I have NEVER participated in any other online forums. They tend to get sticky, and this forum has proven no different. We seem to take turns being dorks. When it's my turn, I hope you'll roll your eyes, and let it pass...I will return the courtesy.
Respectfully,
Laz
the upside...
This site has indeed been around for years, and continues to attract new
viewers. Some of us are determined to learn the answers. Some of us...
Well, everyone has thier own agenda. I feel much better about this forum now than I did a week ago. I actually miss our buddy with the split personality...(I suspect OBS & Dude were the same guy). I think if he had settled down, he would have blended right in with the rest of us. I have NEVER participated in any other online forums. They tend to get sticky, and this forum has proven no different. We seem to take turns being dorks. When it's my turn, I hope you'll roll your eyes, and let it pass...I will return the courtesy.
Respectfully,
Laz
Wiz and Roger,
Well said to both. As I had written before, it looks like the loony bin has granted amnesty to its most needy cases and they have gravitated to the forum. In any event, dont expect too much in the way of solid information or coherent thought from our new contributors....just look at it for its entertainment value.
P
Well said to both. As I had written before, it looks like the loony bin has granted amnesty to its most needy cases and they have gravitated to the forum. In any event, dont expect too much in the way of solid information or coherent thought from our new contributors....just look at it for its entertainment value.
P
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Can We Talk?
Peter, Wiz, Laz and Roger,
As I have read back over your recent posts, I notice that only two of you have offered anything of substance concerning the LDM or the Superstitions. The rest seems to be "fluff" and your own brand of "flame-war mentality". It is easy to point the "literary finger" at others and point out mistakes that have nothing to do with the thoughts that are being offered. You never know where that one nugget of information may come from. It may very well come from someone who values ideas over a large vocabulary, proper English form or Long Island Tea (little finger up).
There have been long periods of time on this forum when the exchange of ideas was at a peak, this happens to be a valley. If you want to return to the peaks, put on your mental hiking boots and offer up your own trail-map on how to get there. Until someone comes forth with a topic that excites the imagination of the members, the "childish mud pit" will be all that remains to let us know that no one has actually died.
IMHO, it will take new members, some who may not have the same "degree" of polish as those you are used to tipping cool ones with, to bring some fresh topics and ideas to the forum. If you offer a serious discussion, other than condemnation or ridicule, I guarantee you will see another side to these "loony....contributors".
This post has not been offered as a continuation of the "childish mud pit" but, rather, as a path out of it. If you really hate where we are, take the lead and the "children" will follow you.
Now, who has that darn map?
Respectfully,
Joe Ribaudo
As I have read back over your recent posts, I notice that only two of you have offered anything of substance concerning the LDM or the Superstitions. The rest seems to be "fluff" and your own brand of "flame-war mentality". It is easy to point the "literary finger" at others and point out mistakes that have nothing to do with the thoughts that are being offered. You never know where that one nugget of information may come from. It may very well come from someone who values ideas over a large vocabulary, proper English form or Long Island Tea (little finger up).
There have been long periods of time on this forum when the exchange of ideas was at a peak, this happens to be a valley. If you want to return to the peaks, put on your mental hiking boots and offer up your own trail-map on how to get there. Until someone comes forth with a topic that excites the imagination of the members, the "childish mud pit" will be all that remains to let us know that no one has actually died.
IMHO, it will take new members, some who may not have the same "degree" of polish as those you are used to tipping cool ones with, to bring some fresh topics and ideas to the forum. If you offer a serious discussion, other than condemnation or ridicule, I guarantee you will see another side to these "loony....contributors".
This post has not been offered as a continuation of the "childish mud pit" but, rather, as a path out of it. If you really hate where we are, take the lead and the "children" will follow you.
Now, who has that darn map?
Respectfully,
Joe Ribaudo
>>As I have read back over your recent posts, I notice that only two of you have offered anything of substance concerning the LDM or the Superstitions<<
Now Joe,
What do you think anyone is going to offer in terms of substance concerning what they know about the LDM? History and old stories are one thing, but I doubt anyone who has any faith in their information will be spilling their guts as to the mines location on a public forum.
Anyway, perhaps we can chat about the Stone Maps? That seems to be the forums favorite topic of discussion, according to some. I'd love to talk about them again.
P
Now Joe,
What do you think anyone is going to offer in terms of substance concerning what they know about the LDM? History and old stories are one thing, but I doubt anyone who has any faith in their information will be spilling their guts as to the mines location on a public forum.
Anyway, perhaps we can chat about the Stone Maps? That seems to be the forums favorite topic of discussion, according to some. I'd love to talk about them again.
P
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it seems arrogance isnt confined solely to tom tom.this "superior air"exhibited by "some" on this forum isnt exactly a rare occurence.it might well be the case that the "superior beings"that exist on here are unable to "spill their guts" purely because they have nothing to "spill" but only like togive the impression they have. it could be the case that the "derided " members have far more to contribute than the self elected heirarchy.
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DED,
The reason tomtom's "arrogance" and shared "superior air" seems to have more than one source on the forum, is because he is nothing more than an old member in new wrappings.
Wiz,
I have on idea why you took offense to my post. I did not name you as someone with no ideas or posts of interest.
"It's not my week to be your keeper, Ribaudo. My offer was to Roger. You wallow wherever you feel most comfortable."
I did not address your offer to Roger, therefore you are safe in not being my "keeper" this week.
Tell me something Wiz, just where do you believe your post says anything that removes you from the confines of the "mud pit", which is your only contribution in recent memory. Other than deriding myself and others here, just what have you contributed to the search for the LDM on this forum?
Peter,
You asked:
"What do you think anyone is going to offer in terms of substance concerning what they know about the LDM? History and old stories are one thing, but I doubt anyone who has any faith in their information will be spilling their guts as to the mines location on a public forum."
No one know the "mines location" so I don't expect the "spilling" of those particular "guts" anytime soon.
Are you saying that all of the information that you and the other members of this forum have shared with the site is without substance because no one has disclosed the location of the mine? If that is not what you meant, my statement stands.
Anyway, perhaps we can chat about the Stone Maps? That seems to be the forums favorite topic of discussion, according to some. I'd love to talk about them again.
You said:
"Anyway, perhaps we can chat about the Stone Maps? That seems to be the forums favorite topic of discussion, according to some. I'd love to talk about them again." (emphasis in bold is Joe's)
That's an interesting statement from someone of your intelligence. It would only take a small amount of observation to realize that your "according to some" should be many. The fact that "some" are not interested in the Stone Maps, has no bearing on the popularity of the topic.
All those who are not interested, have made more than a few comments concerning those maps, including you.
Respectfully,
Joe
The reason tomtom's "arrogance" and shared "superior air" seems to have more than one source on the forum, is because he is nothing more than an old member in new wrappings.
Wiz,
I have on idea why you took offense to my post. I did not name you as someone with no ideas or posts of interest.
"It's not my week to be your keeper, Ribaudo. My offer was to Roger. You wallow wherever you feel most comfortable."
I did not address your offer to Roger, therefore you are safe in not being my "keeper" this week.
Tell me something Wiz, just where do you believe your post says anything that removes you from the confines of the "mud pit", which is your only contribution in recent memory. Other than deriding myself and others here, just what have you contributed to the search for the LDM on this forum?
Peter,
You asked:
"What do you think anyone is going to offer in terms of substance concerning what they know about the LDM? History and old stories are one thing, but I doubt anyone who has any faith in their information will be spilling their guts as to the mines location on a public forum."
No one know the "mines location" so I don't expect the "spilling" of those particular "guts" anytime soon.
Are you saying that all of the information that you and the other members of this forum have shared with the site is without substance because no one has disclosed the location of the mine? If that is not what you meant, my statement stands.
Anyway, perhaps we can chat about the Stone Maps? That seems to be the forums favorite topic of discussion, according to some. I'd love to talk about them again.
You said:
"Anyway, perhaps we can chat about the Stone Maps? That seems to be the forums favorite topic of discussion, according to some. I'd love to talk about them again." (emphasis in bold is Joe's)
That's an interesting statement from someone of your intelligence. It would only take a small amount of observation to realize that your "according to some" should be many. The fact that "some" are not interested in the Stone Maps, has no bearing on the popularity of the topic.
All those who are not interested, have made more than a few comments concerning those maps, including you.
Respectfully,
Joe
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How Do It Know?
Peter,
Poor wording on my part. I don't know for sure. I suppose someone could know where the mine is, and I guess that someone could be dinking around on this site. Perhaps they will be "spilling their guts" any day now.
Respectfully,
Joe
Poor wording on my part. I don't know for sure. I suppose someone could know where the mine is, and I guess that someone could be dinking around on this site. Perhaps they will be "spilling their guts" any day now.
Respectfully,
Joe