Mine Deity
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WELL DUH! Boy,s we have a real live reptoid here in amongst us. He is well educated and is an as.ho.. He,s showing his intelligence as usual , NOW bub we won,t tell the pro,s about ANYTHING and they won,t be able to write their books about whatall they have found...Bill
Wow!
Wow,
what have I started?
ASUgrad,
welcome to the forum. Your authority on the subject is greatly appreciated. However, it is obvious you do not major in diplomacy.
Let me begin by introducing myself. My screen name is Lazarus, and I am the individual who claims to have located the deity. I am soley responsible for my actions, and if someone is going to hang for this crime, it will be me.
If you read back through the thread, you will notice that no-one has suggested doing anything inappropriate with the object. I am well aware of the laws governing artifacts. The suggestion that I would attempt to sell the object is unfounded. As for the forum, with all do respect to the others who post here, most of us are in fact the rank ameteurs you accuse us of being. However, few of us are fools. Although we have done extensive research, so far, no-one on this site has provided any evidence that might suggest the object is authentic. This may come as a surprise to you, but some of us have scruples. I have been corresponding with the 'proper' authorities on the matter, and until you popped up, my findings had been met with much scepticism. I would like to believe he could be authentic, but even I have reasonable doubt. If you have evidence to support the authenticity of the deity, please let me know, and I will forward the information immediately.
I will remind you what I reminded the others. It would be unwise to jump to conclusions about matters such as this. As I recall, I never claimed to have plucked the object from the wilderness. I never mentioned anything about digging. You assume the worst, and that is unfortunate. In the immortal words of Felix Unger, when you 'assume' you make an ass of you and me.
In an earlier post I stated that I would keep everyone posted as to the little guy's authenticity. When I have solid answers, I will let you know.
Lazarus
what have I started?
ASUgrad,
welcome to the forum. Your authority on the subject is greatly appreciated. However, it is obvious you do not major in diplomacy.
Let me begin by introducing myself. My screen name is Lazarus, and I am the individual who claims to have located the deity. I am soley responsible for my actions, and if someone is going to hang for this crime, it will be me.
If you read back through the thread, you will notice that no-one has suggested doing anything inappropriate with the object. I am well aware of the laws governing artifacts. The suggestion that I would attempt to sell the object is unfounded. As for the forum, with all do respect to the others who post here, most of us are in fact the rank ameteurs you accuse us of being. However, few of us are fools. Although we have done extensive research, so far, no-one on this site has provided any evidence that might suggest the object is authentic. This may come as a surprise to you, but some of us have scruples. I have been corresponding with the 'proper' authorities on the matter, and until you popped up, my findings had been met with much scepticism. I would like to believe he could be authentic, but even I have reasonable doubt. If you have evidence to support the authenticity of the deity, please let me know, and I will forward the information immediately.
I will remind you what I reminded the others. It would be unwise to jump to conclusions about matters such as this. As I recall, I never claimed to have plucked the object from the wilderness. I never mentioned anything about digging. You assume the worst, and that is unfortunate. In the immortal words of Felix Unger, when you 'assume' you make an ass of you and me.
In an earlier post I stated that I would keep everyone posted as to the little guy's authenticity. When I have solid answers, I will let you know.
Lazarus
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An Answer?
ASUgrad,
"I was informed of this find by a collegue because of the discussion about it being mesoamerican, which it obviously isn´t."
Could you explain what you mean when you say the object is not
"mesoamerican"? What do you consider "mesoamerican" to be?
Lazarus has not said where he found the "little guy", so you can quit with the "silly" warnings. I think that is what Wiz was getting at in his last post to me. If you live in Arizona, this kind of artifact could have been found digging a hole to bury dog crap in your own back yard.
This find is no "secret". With the permision of Lazarus, I have sent the pictures to some very well know archaeologists. Some of the issues you have mentioned may be why they have been slow to respond, but I am certain they will reply in time.
In what year did you receive your degree? Are you working in the field now? What do you think of the work of Martin and Grub? A little more of your background might make your comments more palatable.
There are a few people who are members of this site that have shown a bit of knowledge on Mesoamerican history. My own interest has always been, what I would consider casual, but some might think more of a passion. I have spoken with a number of archaeologist concerning that area and always found them to be courteous people.
It would appear that you have no idea what the carving is. I was sure that any archaeologist would know at once. I think most of us believe the face to be "Spanish", but what about the nose? Have you seen that in older Mesoamerican work? Since you seem to be "at a loss", should we assume it is of fairly recent design?
Respectfully,
Joe
"I was informed of this find by a collegue because of the discussion about it being mesoamerican, which it obviously isn´t."
Could you explain what you mean when you say the object is not
"mesoamerican"? What do you consider "mesoamerican" to be?
Lazarus has not said where he found the "little guy", so you can quit with the "silly" warnings. I think that is what Wiz was getting at in his last post to me. If you live in Arizona, this kind of artifact could have been found digging a hole to bury dog crap in your own back yard.
This find is no "secret". With the permision of Lazarus, I have sent the pictures to some very well know archaeologists. Some of the issues you have mentioned may be why they have been slow to respond, but I am certain they will reply in time.
In what year did you receive your degree? Are you working in the field now? What do you think of the work of Martin and Grub? A little more of your background might make your comments more palatable.
There are a few people who are members of this site that have shown a bit of knowledge on Mesoamerican history. My own interest has always been, what I would consider casual, but some might think more of a passion. I have spoken with a number of archaeologist concerning that area and always found them to be courteous people.
It would appear that you have no idea what the carving is. I was sure that any archaeologist would know at once. I think most of us believe the face to be "Spanish", but what about the nose? Have you seen that in older Mesoamerican work? Since you seem to be "at a loss", should we assume it is of fairly recent design?
Respectfully,
Joe
deity
professional anal spinxer; we do not hid nor sneak around about things we are very open and obey the laws as we know them. If we break a law it,s usually by unknowingly doing it. YOU are tooo arrogant for your own good and tooo loud and vocal too. Bill
Gee Wiz
Ok, so let me get this straight. Lazarus found this thing near some "Old Spanish Diggings" in his backyard while burying some dogshit. Gimme a break! You guys need to get your stories straight. Besides, I only remember giving conditional statements; if...then..., kinds of statements. You all get awfully defensive about backyard finds, if that is the case. And where are your credentials? You ask me for mine, but don't show me yours. This all sounds very suspicious and sneaky to me and that is why I have absolutely no respect for people who pillage archaeological sites. IF you did find that thing on public land, AND it is more than 100 years old, THENit belongs to the public and should be in a museum!
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ASUgrad,
you and I are in agreement on this. If the object turns out to be authentic, and I think it might, it most certainly belongs in a museum. No-one has ever bothered to ask what I intended to do with it, including you. As Bill711 stated, I think you have underestimated the integrity of myself and others on this site. To the best of my knowledge, no-one on this site had ever mentioned the "Black Antiquities Market". That term is not a part of our vocabulary. Perhaps your can tell us more about it...
The deity has never, and will never belong to me. It isn't mine. As you stated, it belongs on display. I have learned that I may get to influence which museum it goes to, but other than that, it's out of my hands. Providing of course, he is authentic. If not, then this is all really quite silly, isn't it!
laz
you and I are in agreement on this. If the object turns out to be authentic, and I think it might, it most certainly belongs in a museum. No-one has ever bothered to ask what I intended to do with it, including you. As Bill711 stated, I think you have underestimated the integrity of myself and others on this site. To the best of my knowledge, no-one on this site had ever mentioned the "Black Antiquities Market". That term is not a part of our vocabulary. Perhaps your can tell us more about it...
The deity has never, and will never belong to me. It isn't mine. As you stated, it belongs on display. I have learned that I may get to influence which museum it goes to, but other than that, it's out of my hands. Providing of course, he is authentic. If not, then this is all really quite silly, isn't it!
laz
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Lazarus; asu is a typical filthy liberal they will not get out and do anything for themselves but let someone else do something and here they come ashreeking and yelling dire threats and calling everyone names an trying to make everyone as miserable as they can. asu why don,t you crawl back under your rock and leave real people alone??? Bill
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ASUgrad
ASUgrad,
While you may not be our little Wyatt, you certainly move through the grass in an identical manner.
You have run away from some very simple questions, as if they are just too far beneath you, and yet you are finding the time for some very meaningless posts.
Actually, we have shown you our credentials. We have all stated we are without them. You are the one who has made claims here. Asking what you thought of the work of Martin and Grub would have been a no-brainer for any archaeologist to answer.
It is obvious to me, that you are over your head here and must make personal attacks on our members, rather than offer anything of importance to the topic. Got to be a Wyatt hanging around your computer
keyboard.
Joe Ribaudo
While you may not be our little Wyatt, you certainly move through the grass in an identical manner.
You have run away from some very simple questions, as if they are just too far beneath you, and yet you are finding the time for some very meaningless posts.
Actually, we have shown you our credentials. We have all stated we are without them. You are the one who has made claims here. Asking what you thought of the work of Martin and Grub would have been a no-brainer for any archaeologist to answer.
It is obvious to me, that you are over your head here and must make personal attacks on our members, rather than offer anything of importance to the topic. Got to be a Wyatt hanging around your computer
keyboard.
Joe Ribaudo
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First Response
Lazarus,
I have been a fan of ancient Mesoamerica for a number of years now.
In that time I have had more than a few questions, for which answers were varied and at odds. I had the good fortune to have a few of those questions answered by some well respected archaeologists.
[ASUgrad]
"But lets face it, if this is Spanish, and it really does look to be, then it is definately more than 150 years old, but not more than 500 years old."
This is the opinion of our "local" expert.
One of the people I sent your pictures to was, Dr. Michael E. Smith,
Professor of Anthropology, University at Albany. This was his response:
"This looks like a piece of modern junk made to fool tourists."
That's a strong comment from an archaeologist. In my dealings with them, they seldom make such definitive statements. There are good reasons for that. In archaeology, one turn of the spade can destroy what has been accepted fact for many years. They will usually leave themselves some "wiggle" room.
You will notice he said "looks like", not "is". 
For me, his opinion is enough. I would have preferred it was the real thing.
Respectfully,
Joe
I have been a fan of ancient Mesoamerica for a number of years now.
In that time I have had more than a few questions, for which answers were varied and at odds. I had the good fortune to have a few of those questions answered by some well respected archaeologists.
[ASUgrad]
"But lets face it, if this is Spanish, and it really does look to be, then it is definately more than 150 years old, but not more than 500 years old."
This is the opinion of our "local" expert.
One of the people I sent your pictures to was, Dr. Michael E. Smith,
Professor of Anthropology, University at Albany. This was his response:
"This looks like a piece of modern junk made to fool tourists."
That's a strong comment from an archaeologist. In my dealings with them, they seldom make such definitive statements. There are good reasons for that. In archaeology, one turn of the spade can destroy what has been accepted fact for many years. They will usually leave themselves some "wiggle" room.
You will notice he said "looks like", not "is". For me, his opinion is enough. I would have preferred it was the real thing.
Respectfully,
Joe
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Joe,
thank you so much.
ASUgrad,
if you had read through the posts along this thread more carefully, you would have seen that the first place I contacted was ASU. For whatever reason, they have been slow to respond. Perhaps they think it is a modern piece of junk too! No matter, if the deity does turn out to be authentic, I'm going to be absolutely certain it does NOT go to ASU, and if anyone asks me why, I'll tell them my little story about you!
You are not contributing to any kind of serious discussion...you're just a muck raker. I have no reason to believe you are being honest with any of us about who you are, nor your intentions.
You need to slow down and relax. Joe is right on the money with this...we never claimed to be specialists on the subject. As I recall, that was you! Now we have legit experts who dispute your assertions about the object.
I doubt very seriously the law would expect me to ignore the experts in favor of your threatening nonsense. As I have implied in earlier posts, I am way ahead of you on this. I am not required to give you any updates on my progress...I do it because I want to. People like you make people like me NOT want to contribute. I am growing mighty tired of defending my integrity to a stranger. If you decide to become a regular contributor to this site, I suggest you create a fresh name and start over with a clean slate. Most of these guys are quick to forgive and move on, but you are apt to be an exception...nobody likes a jackass!
laz
thank you so much.
ASUgrad,
if you had read through the posts along this thread more carefully, you would have seen that the first place I contacted was ASU. For whatever reason, they have been slow to respond. Perhaps they think it is a modern piece of junk too! No matter, if the deity does turn out to be authentic, I'm going to be absolutely certain it does NOT go to ASU, and if anyone asks me why, I'll tell them my little story about you!
You are not contributing to any kind of serious discussion...you're just a muck raker. I have no reason to believe you are being honest with any of us about who you are, nor your intentions.
You need to slow down and relax. Joe is right on the money with this...we never claimed to be specialists on the subject. As I recall, that was you! Now we have legit experts who dispute your assertions about the object.
I doubt very seriously the law would expect me to ignore the experts in favor of your threatening nonsense. As I have implied in earlier posts, I am way ahead of you on this. I am not required to give you any updates on my progress...I do it because I want to. People like you make people like me NOT want to contribute. I am growing mighty tired of defending my integrity to a stranger. If you decide to become a regular contributor to this site, I suggest you create a fresh name and start over with a clean slate. Most of these guys are quick to forgive and move on, but you are apt to be an exception...nobody likes a jackass!
laz
My Turn
My turn…
In 1912, Arizona became the last of the adjoined 48 states to enter the Union. However, much of the territory had previously been acquired from Mexico as part of the Gadsden Purchase of 1853. Prior to this, Mexico occupied all of what is now the US southwest.
The Arizona landscape is pock marked with literally thousands of holes originally dug by the Spanish and Mexicans.
These holes are neither difficult to spot, nor difficult to identify. A mere forty years ago, one still needed to be quite careful not to drive their trucks into an unseen shaft. Maybe for others the mantra was “don’t play near the street”. For us, it was “don’t play near the mine shaft”.
Up until the mid seventies, the Salt River Valley was surrounded by these holes, guarded by meaningless strands of barbed wire. Today, there are tract homes on these very locations.
I don’t consider those mines to be “lost”…just gone. Some of those holes were dangerous and unsightly.
In the late 1800’s it was typical for “Anglos” to take advantage of holes begun by the Spanish or Mexicans. It was a heck of a lot easier than locating a source on your own. Most of these holes were probably played out before the “Anglos” ever arrived.
It is not at all unusual for new civilizations to build over the ruins of past civilizations. The ASU campus in Tempe Arizona is itself built over the ruins of a very recent Mexican village known as San Pablo. Even as recently as the sixties, much of San Pablo still remained. The last I was aware, ASU was in fact, excavating some of the remains.
Why do I bring this up now?
Because I live smack dab in the middle of what was once San Pablo.
The idea that someone in this nieghborhood could find a Spanish deity while burying dog shit in thier back yard a short distance from an "old Mexican dig" is totally plausible.
It makes me wonder what they are teaching our students in this town!
laz
In 1912, Arizona became the last of the adjoined 48 states to enter the Union. However, much of the territory had previously been acquired from Mexico as part of the Gadsden Purchase of 1853. Prior to this, Mexico occupied all of what is now the US southwest.
The Arizona landscape is pock marked with literally thousands of holes originally dug by the Spanish and Mexicans.
These holes are neither difficult to spot, nor difficult to identify. A mere forty years ago, one still needed to be quite careful not to drive their trucks into an unseen shaft. Maybe for others the mantra was “don’t play near the street”. For us, it was “don’t play near the mine shaft”.
Up until the mid seventies, the Salt River Valley was surrounded by these holes, guarded by meaningless strands of barbed wire. Today, there are tract homes on these very locations.
I don’t consider those mines to be “lost”…just gone. Some of those holes were dangerous and unsightly.
In the late 1800’s it was typical for “Anglos” to take advantage of holes begun by the Spanish or Mexicans. It was a heck of a lot easier than locating a source on your own. Most of these holes were probably played out before the “Anglos” ever arrived.
It is not at all unusual for new civilizations to build over the ruins of past civilizations. The ASU campus in Tempe Arizona is itself built over the ruins of a very recent Mexican village known as San Pablo. Even as recently as the sixties, much of San Pablo still remained. The last I was aware, ASU was in fact, excavating some of the remains.
Why do I bring this up now?
Because I live smack dab in the middle of what was once San Pablo.
The idea that someone in this nieghborhood could find a Spanish deity while burying dog shit in thier back yard a short distance from an "old Mexican dig" is totally plausible.
It makes me wonder what they are teaching our students in this town!
laz
Sapnish Deity
Good day everyone!
I have been a ghost in this forum for some time now and have learned quite a bit from the regulars here. Joe and Lazarus and the other contributors always seem sincere and deliberate and I thank you. You have inspired me to do some reading about the LDM and mine deities, as well as prompted me to do a little "dig" of my own.
As luck would have it, yesterday I happened to be in my back yard picking up after the dogs and I found this (see pic in Members archive). I believe it may point to Spain. Clearly you can see the regal decorations of a King and Queen in the clothing, the thrones, headgear, etc.... But other then my amateur guesses as to possible origin (and I could be way off!!!!!), this has got me puzzled.
So many things to consider!!! It appears to be about the same size as the Lazarus deity, but that is where the similarities end. For example the eyes and noses don’t have the same appearance as Lazs deity. In fact, I’m starting to think that this and possibly even Lazs little guy might be cross cultural in nature, that is, entirely different sets of cultures in each case. I’m guessing that with mine the pale features imply there might be some Castilian or northern European nomad culture combined with that of Native Americans or Mesoamericans. To complicate this theoretical cultural soup, the Native Americans and the Spanish crossed paths around here at several points in history making dating this a bit difficult, especially since it is obviously not carbon based (except for the decorative wood stand).
But alas, this is all speculation. I must admit that any further theories on my part would be guessing as well. And what really bothers me is that with all my newly acquired reference books, I have no idea what to make of the beard. Anyway, with all due respect to Lazarus and Bill711 and Joe and Wiz, I'm afraid I feel safer relying on the informed opinion of a graduate of something. I defer to ASUgrad and I thank you in advance for your comments.
I have been a ghost in this forum for some time now and have learned quite a bit from the regulars here. Joe and Lazarus and the other contributors always seem sincere and deliberate and I thank you. You have inspired me to do some reading about the LDM and mine deities, as well as prompted me to do a little "dig" of my own.
As luck would have it, yesterday I happened to be in my back yard picking up after the dogs and I found this (see pic in Members archive). I believe it may point to Spain. Clearly you can see the regal decorations of a King and Queen in the clothing, the thrones, headgear, etc.... But other then my amateur guesses as to possible origin (and I could be way off!!!!!), this has got me puzzled.
So many things to consider!!! It appears to be about the same size as the Lazarus deity, but that is where the similarities end. For example the eyes and noses don’t have the same appearance as Lazs deity. In fact, I’m starting to think that this and possibly even Lazs little guy might be cross cultural in nature, that is, entirely different sets of cultures in each case. I’m guessing that with mine the pale features imply there might be some Castilian or northern European nomad culture combined with that of Native Americans or Mesoamericans. To complicate this theoretical cultural soup, the Native Americans and the Spanish crossed paths around here at several points in history making dating this a bit difficult, especially since it is obviously not carbon based (except for the decorative wood stand).
But alas, this is all speculation. I must admit that any further theories on my part would be guessing as well. And what really bothers me is that with all my newly acquired reference books, I have no idea what to make of the beard. Anyway, with all due respect to Lazarus and Bill711 and Joe and Wiz, I'm afraid I feel safer relying on the informed opinion of a graduate of something. I defer to ASUgrad and I thank you in advance for your comments.
Thanks for your support,
Robage
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Welcome
Robage,
welcome to the forum, and good day.
I must admit, your find caught me somewhat off guard. I believe you may be onto something...or perhaps just on something. It's hard to be certain.
I recall images similar to these as a child. Don't quote me on this, but I believe they may be pagan religious symbols of some type. I see a resemblence to my little guy, but only with the beard. That seems to be where the similarities end. I wouldn't venture a guess as to the age or authenticity of your "deity", however, I suggest you proceed with caution. I am quite certain the images represented are well older than a hundred years, and you know what that means. Your deity has twice as many figures as mine...you could land in twice the trouble.
Thank you for providing this thread with a little levity. Gotta go now...
the feds are banging at my door!
laz
welcome to the forum, and good day.
I must admit, your find caught me somewhat off guard. I believe you may be onto something...or perhaps just on something. It's hard to be certain.
I recall images similar to these as a child. Don't quote me on this, but I believe they may be pagan religious symbols of some type. I see a resemblence to my little guy, but only with the beard. That seems to be where the similarities end. I wouldn't venture a guess as to the age or authenticity of your "deity", however, I suggest you proceed with caution. I am quite certain the images represented are well older than a hundred years, and you know what that means. Your deity has twice as many figures as mine...you could land in twice the trouble.
Thank you for providing this thread with a little levity. Gotta go now...
the feds are banging at my door!
laz
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Lazarus,
As I said, I would have preferred things to have turned out in a more positive manner.
Your obvious knowledge of history is something that seems to be a rare commodity these days. Dr. Smith's opinion should not be considered the final authority for your find. Because of the way he put it, I would look at the figure with a great deal of suspicion. I know you have your eyes and mind wide open, and that's the way it should be.
Your appraisal of "ASUgrad" seems fair and accurate considering the content of the posts he has submitted. He is giving us little to go on.
The fact that he misused "Mesoamerica", contextually, is the mistake of an "amateur". That puts him on our level, or worse. I opt for the latter.
Robage,
Welcome to the forum and thank you for the
Respectfully,
Joe Ribaudo
As I said, I would have preferred things to have turned out in a more positive manner.
Your obvious knowledge of history is something that seems to be a rare commodity these days. Dr. Smith's opinion should not be considered the final authority for your find. Because of the way he put it, I would look at the figure with a great deal of suspicion. I know you have your eyes and mind wide open, and that's the way it should be.
Your appraisal of "ASUgrad" seems fair and accurate considering the content of the posts he has submitted. He is giving us little to go on.
The fact that he misused "Mesoamerica", contextually, is the mistake of an "amateur". That puts him on our level, or worse. I opt for the latter.
Robage,
Welcome to the forum and thank you for the
Respectfully,
Joe Ribaudo
No Need To Apologize
Joe,
No need to apologize.
I can’t express how helpful you have been. Please express my thanks to Dr. Smith as well.
Of course, the door is not closed on the subject. I would think it unwise to discount Dr. Smith’s conclusions, but then as you stated, he has only photos from which to work. The upside is that if the little guy turns out to be a fake, I’ll get to keep him. I too, would rather he was authentic.
As for my knowledge of southwestern history, I am afraid I way over simplified the sequence of events. Anyone interested in studying how these events unfolded would also want to read up on the ‘Missouri Compromise’, the ‘Compromise of 1850’, and of course, the Mexican American war. This should give one a better grasp as to how this situation played out. The Mexicans were not sneaking around…they lived here!
Laz
No need to apologize.
I can’t express how helpful you have been. Please express my thanks to Dr. Smith as well.
Of course, the door is not closed on the subject. I would think it unwise to discount Dr. Smith’s conclusions, but then as you stated, he has only photos from which to work. The upside is that if the little guy turns out to be a fake, I’ll get to keep him. I too, would rather he was authentic.
As for my knowledge of southwestern history, I am afraid I way over simplified the sequence of events. Anyone interested in studying how these events unfolded would also want to read up on the ‘Missouri Compromise’, the ‘Compromise of 1850’, and of course, the Mexican American war. This should give one a better grasp as to how this situation played out. The Mexicans were not sneaking around…they lived here!
Laz
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Lazarus; I don,t know if the deity is genuine or not BUT I still say it,s a good find. It,s a nice picture rock for the mantal. Do not let the 2 asswipes from asu discourage you; it,s still more than they have found!! YOU get up and go looking for things and all they do is sit around and carp about what someone else comes up with. I followed MEL FISHER for years and watched academia called him a fraud and swear that there was no ship,s and when he came up with treasure from other ship,s they said he was faking it to raise money. You all know after he found the mother lode how the state, federal and the archaologist started screaming bloody murder trying to take everything away from him, so they could have it for themselves. They were too lazy to get off their asses and spend their money to find anything and it,s still that way today.They want somebody else to go to the expense and work to find sites and then move in and get the attention for finding it and take control of thing,s... Bill
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Wiz and Laz,
I am going to guess that Laz is having a hard time getting any responses.
The people I sent the pictures to have not responded at all, other than Dr. Hill. I am not all that surprised, as there may be some question, in their minds, as to where the little guy came from.
Dr. Hill's response was fairly short and less than positive. When I received no reply from Dr. Coe, I was pretty sure no one else would either. He has been kind enough to answer the emails I have sent in the past and was always helpful.
I hope you get a better response by showing the statue in person.
Respectfully,
Joe
I am going to guess that Laz is having a hard time getting any responses.
The people I sent the pictures to have not responded at all, other than Dr. Hill. I am not all that surprised, as there may be some question, in their minds, as to where the little guy came from.
Dr. Hill's response was fairly short and less than positive. When I received no reply from Dr. Coe, I was pretty sure no one else would either. He has been kind enough to answer the emails I have sent in the past and was always helpful.
I hope you get a better response by showing the statue in person.
Respectfully,
Joe
Joe is right.
other than ASUgrad, people are not breaking down my door to get a look at the little guy.
I have been in Manhattan for the past two weeks. I was hoping I would return home to find good news, but that has not been the case. So far, the academic community has been very slow to respond.
laz
other than ASUgrad, people are not breaking down my door to get a look at the little guy.
I have been in Manhattan for the past two weeks. I was hoping I would return home to find good news, but that has not been the case. So far, the academic community has been very slow to respond.
laz
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Any new information
I was just curious if the deity was ever authenticated. It's been a couple of years now. Could the picture be posted again? Missed it the first time around.
Zoltan
Zoltan