Hello All,
I recently returned from Ohio where my brother passed away the day after Christmas. It was a bad year for me personally and it sounds as if fellow Dutch Hunters have also been hit hard.
My condolences to the family of Mr. Creager and I hope Mr. Reynolds can bounce back from his medical issues.
Additionally, I agree with Mr. Reynolds that we must count our blessings....a teaching that somehow has slipped through the cracks. (America as a whole needs to reestablish this philosophy.)
Let's also collaborate to improve this forum during this New Year; we owe it to the likes of Steve Creager.
Steve's Passing
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Gene Reynolds
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I had an interesting day and thought I would share this with you because someday we all may need help and no one will tell you what doctors do - so to prepare you - I will.
You will notice that me appointments are different that earlier stated - but not due to my mistakes - but because doctors are foulable too.!
Another letter to my sister.........
1-19-06
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Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 5:53 PM
Went to the doc at 11:00 am - they explained the procedure in general and then started. They taped some wires etc. to my arms and then they started........ BANG with the first electric shock that damn near brought me off of the table.! He asked if I was alright and I shook my head a bit and said yes - I guess I just wasn't expecting that much current. I then said - go ahead.......as he did and the next one wasn't as bad....... Then BANG again and I was startled. .....I told him to go ahead as I was damn near electrocuted a total of at least a dozen times .......Finally I told him to stop a minute as he was moving the probe closer to me heart and up the arm. I asked him if these shocks were going to be this strong the whole 30 minutes? He had already shocked me a dozen times or more in the first minute. He said that the more he does it - the stronger they will get as they turn the juice up. Then he said , " and it not for 30 minutes - the test takes an hour and a half... " Bullshit", I said as I told him his test is now over. I told him to move right along to the next test..... He said I won't like it a bit........ In the next one he stabs me with needles for about 30 minutes .......all over to test my reflexes. I told him if he wanted to see his family ever again - I don't think I would do that to me. He agreed and I left.
The doc will see me Tuesday and tell me his results on the 2 MRI's I TOOK and we will go from there.........
That's all the wonderful news I had today ......... well wait a minute..........The phone just rang........ the other Doc/hospital just called. They have messed up my appointments for tomorrow and I am now re-set to Monday. Oh Boy, I get to swallow a radio active capsule Monday, and come back in 2 hours when I'm glowing like a nuclear plant and take the rest of the thyroid test. Then they draw some blood , then on to whatever in hell the other 2 or 3 tests are. Oh yea, I get to drink some of that choc something stuff which also has radiation/or something in it so you can continue glowing for whatever the machine is ........ they put you on and then turn you upside down so they can see if your 5 year old hy-adle hernia in killing you or they are. God only knows what the other tests are for the remainder of the day - but I am already sick of it all without even going yet.!
I can't remember what all the other tests are for Monday but it all starts at 8:00 AM and goes on all day until done.
If you ever hear from me again....... it's because they didn't kill me ...........or perhaps because I was able to control myself long enough to avoid going to jail.! Today was a shocking experience and my hand was still tingling long after I got home. He said they only started with 100 volts too.! Later -
Gene
PS - I think I'm going to run an add in the paper.......
WANTED - Woman =
My good points = I am or was strong - ugly - fat - poor - no home - no money - no talent - no car - no intelligence - no food - and no job........
My Bad Point = I'M AVAILABLE.!
Well guys - I won't bore with all this trivia - I just wanted to all to know - that things are not always as they appear - nor is everything always black or white....There can be a veriation in anything and usually is.
I also wanted to thank all of you that sent me notes
and I also wanted to thank all of you that thought about sending me a note.
and for thouse of you that have neither thought about it or did it - I am sending you a gift - open the box - and plant the pretty vine where everyone can see and touch it - (do they still sell calamine lotion?)
My regards to you all - Enjoy life - and enjoy each other.
You will notice that me appointments are different that earlier stated - but not due to my mistakes - but because doctors are foulable too.!
Another letter to my sister.........
1-19-06
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Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 5:53 PM
Went to the doc at 11:00 am - they explained the procedure in general and then started. They taped some wires etc. to my arms and then they started........ BANG with the first electric shock that damn near brought me off of the table.! He asked if I was alright and I shook my head a bit and said yes - I guess I just wasn't expecting that much current. I then said - go ahead.......as he did and the next one wasn't as bad....... Then BANG again and I was startled. .....I told him to go ahead as I was damn near electrocuted a total of at least a dozen times .......Finally I told him to stop a minute as he was moving the probe closer to me heart and up the arm. I asked him if these shocks were going to be this strong the whole 30 minutes? He had already shocked me a dozen times or more in the first minute. He said that the more he does it - the stronger they will get as they turn the juice up. Then he said , " and it not for 30 minutes - the test takes an hour and a half... " Bullshit", I said as I told him his test is now over. I told him to move right along to the next test..... He said I won't like it a bit........ In the next one he stabs me with needles for about 30 minutes .......all over to test my reflexes. I told him if he wanted to see his family ever again - I don't think I would do that to me. He agreed and I left.
The doc will see me Tuesday and tell me his results on the 2 MRI's I TOOK and we will go from there.........
That's all the wonderful news I had today ......... well wait a minute..........The phone just rang........ the other Doc/hospital just called. They have messed up my appointments for tomorrow and I am now re-set to Monday. Oh Boy, I get to swallow a radio active capsule Monday, and come back in 2 hours when I'm glowing like a nuclear plant and take the rest of the thyroid test. Then they draw some blood , then on to whatever in hell the other 2 or 3 tests are. Oh yea, I get to drink some of that choc something stuff which also has radiation/or something in it so you can continue glowing for whatever the machine is ........ they put you on and then turn you upside down so they can see if your 5 year old hy-adle hernia in killing you or they are. God only knows what the other tests are for the remainder of the day - but I am already sick of it all without even going yet.!
I can't remember what all the other tests are for Monday but it all starts at 8:00 AM and goes on all day until done.
If you ever hear from me again....... it's because they didn't kill me ...........or perhaps because I was able to control myself long enough to avoid going to jail.! Today was a shocking experience and my hand was still tingling long after I got home. He said they only started with 100 volts too.! Later -
Gene
PS - I think I'm going to run an add in the paper.......
WANTED - Woman =
My good points = I am or was strong - ugly - fat - poor - no home - no money - no talent - no car - no intelligence - no food - and no job........
My Bad Point = I'M AVAILABLE.!
Well guys - I won't bore with all this trivia - I just wanted to all to know - that things are not always as they appear - nor is everything always black or white....There can be a veriation in anything and usually is.
I also wanted to thank all of you that sent me notes
and I also wanted to thank all of you that thought about sending me a note.
and for thouse of you that have neither thought about it or did it - I am sending you a gift - open the box - and plant the pretty vine where everyone can see and touch it - (do they still sell calamine lotion?)
My regards to you all - Enjoy life - and enjoy each other.
Writer of Borrego 13
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Gene Reynolds
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Smelters are there
I was over in another area (moderated ) and saw a post by Knun that was interesting - it read as follows -
Knun
One thing that has bothered me about Supe mining has been the absence of smelters in the area.
There are 'rasters found in the area yet no basic smelters to process ore.
Guess what Knun - According to what Tom K. told me in the 70's = there are some that he found - and he gave me a full description of appro. where and what was found with them.
They were found on the inside of a mountain along with the skeletons of some bodies - and they were vented.
That's probably all I should say about it for now. If you or some of you are friends of T.K's = you might be able to get more info about it.
For someone that knows the Sup's well - it would or should not be that much of a chore to locate from the discription I still remember = if it is true?
Good luck talking to him -
Gene
Knun
One thing that has bothered me about Supe mining has been the absence of smelters in the area.
There are 'rasters found in the area yet no basic smelters to process ore.
Guess what Knun - According to what Tom K. told me in the 70's = there are some that he found - and he gave me a full description of appro. where and what was found with them.
They were found on the inside of a mountain along with the skeletons of some bodies - and they were vented.
That's probably all I should say about it for now. If you or some of you are friends of T.K's = you might be able to get more info about it.
For someone that knows the Sup's well - it would or should not be that much of a chore to locate from the discription I still remember = if it is true?
Good luck talking to him -
Gene
Writer of Borrego 13
1 Year Today
I thought of Steve and his family often over the holidays. It is one year today (January 5) since his passing. It is a deep void for many of us.
In rereading some of the old posts, I noted one involving Steve that spoke volumes to me. The discussion was whether Ruth was packed into the mountains from First Water or the U Ranch. Steve mentioned that there were several references from newspaper stories about Ruth being packed in from First Water. No one really appeared to question his remark but Steve must have begun thinking about it and went back and reviewed his research. The folowing is his follow-up post.
Gentleman,
My best to Lynn and the boys. I know there were plans to have his reamins returned to the mountains?
Garry
In rereading some of the old posts, I noted one involving Steve that spoke volumes to me. The discussion was whether Ruth was packed into the mountains from First Water or the U Ranch. Steve mentioned that there were several references from newspaper stories about Ruth being packed in from First Water. No one really appeared to question his remark but Steve must have begun thinking about it and went back and reviewed his research. The folowing is his follow-up post.
Gentleman,
I believe I can count the number of similar responses by other members on one finger. Who else would have taken the time to go back and dig through their research to prove themselves in error? (No Ego here!) Also his sensitivity to other people's feelings is apparent in his reference to Dr. Glover's statement. This is just "one" example of what made him so special!I stand corrected. I went back and checked my file of newspaper articles on the Ruth disappearnce. It appears I was confused.
First Water is mentioned. But in the context of the starting point - or base camp - of the search parties. Not Ruth.
I also found several articles stating that Ruth and "guides" started out from Florence. Which can't be right. I can only assume that because the Quarter Circle U Ranch was close to Florence Junction (???) that the reporter mentioned that as the starting point.
So, in my old feebled late forty-ish mind, the two references merged and seemed to confirm Thomas Glover's statment in his book.
Thus, I am wrong, and humbly acknowledge so. However, that is not to say that Thomas Glover does not have something to the contrary that indicates Ruth did leave from First Water. There could very well be something. But, in the articles I have, nothing states that.
My best to Lynn and the boys. I know there were plans to have his reamins returned to the mountains?
Garry
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Joe Ribaudo
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Sad Day.....
Garry,
I was a sad day for many of us.
Peter and Matthew Roberts were to place Steve's ashes in a favorite place in the Superstitions. I believe that took place.
One of Steve's sources for how Ruth was taken into Willow Spring, was probably Greg Davis. Greg got his story from Tom Kollenborn, who said that he asked Tex Barkley directly and that Tex swore that they took him in from First Water Ranch.
I like to think that Steve was the man he portrayed on this Forum and in private correspondence over the years. Nothing has really shaken that belief since his passing, and I doubt anything ever will.
He is missed.
Joe
I was a sad day for many of us.
Peter and Matthew Roberts were to place Steve's ashes in a favorite place in the Superstitions. I believe that took place.
One of Steve's sources for how Ruth was taken into Willow Spring, was probably Greg Davis. Greg got his story from Tom Kollenborn, who said that he asked Tex Barkley directly and that Tex swore that they took him in from First Water Ranch.
I like to think that Steve was the man he portrayed on this Forum and in private correspondence over the years. Nothing has really shaken that belief since his passing, and I doubt anything ever will.
He is missed.
Joe
2 years later
Yesterday, January 5, 2008, marked the second year since Steve Creager passed away at the age of 48, leaving a wife and two sons. His memory has certainly not grown dimmer. Yesterday, I was reading some of our correspondence regarding the Lost Dutchman and it brought back a flood of memories, all good. He was certainly a unique individual in the LDM community.
Steve, thanks for the ride. It was much too short. We will always miss you.
Our best to Lynn and the boys.
Garry
Steve, thanks for the ride. It was much too short. We will always miss you.
Our best to Lynn and the boys.
Garry
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Joe Ribaudo
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Steve
Garry,
Steve is missed by a lot of people.
Here is what I wrote Jan. 7, 2006:
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Thomas,
Well put, my friend.
As the day for Steve's funeral draws near, many of us are feeling the deep pain and hopelessness of his passing. Other than our prayers, there was nothing we could do.
There are now things to be done. His close friends here, Peter and Matthew (Kraig) will carry part of that task, but there are things the rest of us can do.
First, we can each send our condolences to his family. The web site that is set up allows for e-mails to be sent quickly. More importantly, there is a memorial fund set up for the education of Steve's sons. What could be more important than educating his children?
I trust that everyone, who is able, will repay the generosity and friendship that Steve has shown us all over the years. It is a debt I can never repay.
In his wife and children, and with our memories, he is with us still.
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Thank you for the reminder.
Take care,
Joe
Steve is missed by a lot of people.
Here is what I wrote Jan. 7, 2006:
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Thomas,
Well put, my friend.
As the day for Steve's funeral draws near, many of us are feeling the deep pain and hopelessness of his passing. Other than our prayers, there was nothing we could do.
There are now things to be done. His close friends here, Peter and Matthew (Kraig) will carry part of that task, but there are things the rest of us can do.
First, we can each send our condolences to his family. The web site that is set up allows for e-mails to be sent quickly. More importantly, there is a memorial fund set up for the education of Steve's sons. What could be more important than educating his children?
I trust that everyone, who is able, will repay the generosity and friendship that Steve has shown us all over the years. It is a debt I can never repay.
In his wife and children, and with our memories, he is with us still.
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Thank you for the reminder.
Take care,
Joe