Peralta Stone Maps Secret Codes Revealed
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its ok, i didnt think it was aimed at me,but the false names,ludicrous claims oflegendary status aside, its amazing how many people would or indeed do subscribe to such ludicrous and convoluted theories,shadesof nostradamus,bible codes, cryptic codes and clues that are so complex and complicated that even the original code maker would need the patience of a saint to re-unravel them lol
its ok, i didnt think it was aimed at me,but the false names,ludicrous claims oflegendary status aside, its amazing how many people would or indeed do subscribe to such ludicrous and convoluted theories,shadesof nostradamus,bible codes, cryptic codes and clues that are so complex and complicated that even the original code maker would need the patience of a saint to re-unravel them lol
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Joe Ribaudo
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On A String
Gentlemen,
I believe we are being led along here by someone who has been a member for awhile now. I may be wrong, but I have had some private messages which make me a little wary. I may be, and hope I am, wrong.
Anyone have any ideas?
Respectfully,
Joe
I believe we are being led along here by someone who has been a member for awhile now. I may be wrong, but I have had some private messages which make me a little wary. I may be, and hope I am, wrong.
Anyone have any ideas?
Respectfully,
Joe
On A String
Joe,
perhaps you missed it, but we have already determined Wyatt Westwood's
alter ego. You may want to read back a few entries. He also posts as
"[b]Blackbeard[/b]" and other variations of names already in use. Don't let him fool you with his nonsense.
Lazarus
perhaps you missed it, but we have already determined Wyatt Westwood's
alter ego. You may want to read back a few entries. He also posts as
"[b]Blackbeard[/b]" and other variations of names already in use. Don't let him fool you with his nonsense.
Lazarus
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Case in point
Joe,
case in point.
On the post above, Wyatt Westwood signed in as Bill 711 and then signed the post as Wyatt. This is a really odd habit, even for someone as knucklebrained as Wyatt Westwood.
Wyatt,
if you can't stick with one name, how can you be trusted to stick with one story? Knock off the nonsense and stick with one (or two) names. You aren't doing your credibility any favors. I wish you all the best, but not at our expense.
Laz
case in point.
On the post above, Wyatt Westwood signed in as Bill 711 and then signed the post as Wyatt. This is a really odd habit, even for someone as knucklebrained as Wyatt Westwood.
Wyatt,
if you can't stick with one name, how can you be trusted to stick with one story? Knock off the nonsense and stick with one (or two) names. You aren't doing your credibility any favors. I wish you all the best, but not at our expense.
Laz
wyatt punk
if we all stop responding to the lunatic....he'll go away.....he is obviously a very little man with a big ego...in other words....a small fry trying to be a whole potato
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Fooled?
Lazarus,
You said"
"perhaps you missed it, but we have already determined Wyatt Westwood's alter ego. You may want to read back a few entries. He also posts as "Blackbeard" and other variations of names already in use. Don't let him fool you with his nonsense."
I am aware of the obvious identities of Mr. Westwood. It is my opinion that there is an identity that he is not making obvious and that this is not his first journey into our midst.
Not that any of that matters, except for the fact that he seems to have an agenda. Now what could that be?
You might notice that I called him on this fairly quickly.
While we have been told his identity, I have my doubts.
I noticed Lou Layton looking in on the site the other day. Perhaps he will make a few posts. It would be nice to have some fresh ideas here.
Respectfully,
Joe
You said"
"perhaps you missed it, but we have already determined Wyatt Westwood's alter ego. You may want to read back a few entries. He also posts as "Blackbeard" and other variations of names already in use. Don't let him fool you with his nonsense."
I am aware of the obvious identities of Mr. Westwood. It is my opinion that there is an identity that he is not making obvious and that this is not his first journey into our midst.
Not that any of that matters, except for the fact that he seems to have an agenda. Now what could that be?
You might notice that I called him on this fairly quickly.
While we have been told his identity, I have my doubts.
I noticed Lou Layton looking in on the site the other day. Perhaps he will make a few posts. It would be nice to have some fresh ideas here.
Respectfully,
Joe
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theres a fairly easy answer to all this joe,using the king solomon method,ifEVERYBODY gave the webmaster the permission to make public the names theyve used... then this issue would be quickly resolved, and it would also reveal a few other issues wouldnt it? im quite happy to be included in any such "unveiling" that might follow
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Wyatt, err....I mean Blackbeard, err.... I mean Mr Riley. (sorry it is difficult for me to keep your various personas straight.)
Are you telling us that the Stone Maps led you to Waltz's tools? I'd be interested in learning what makes you think they are Waltz's as opposed to say one of the Petraschs, or Roy Bradfords, or Abe Reids, or any of the other prospectors that worked the mountains over the last 100 years.
Then there is the question of why a Stone Map of supposedly Mexican/Spanish origin would include Waltz's tools...but dont bother tackling that question yet, I'd be interested in your response to the first.
Peter
Are you telling us that the Stone Maps led you to Waltz's tools? I'd be interested in learning what makes you think they are Waltz's as opposed to say one of the Petraschs, or Roy Bradfords, or Abe Reids, or any of the other prospectors that worked the mountains over the last 100 years.
Then there is the question of why a Stone Map of supposedly Mexican/Spanish origin would include Waltz's tools...but dont bother tackling that question yet, I'd be interested in your response to the first.
Peter
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stone maps
SHIT bluebeard are you trying to impress us with the old picks and hammer and chain and can of air tight,s yes that was what they were called. I have the exactly the same miners pick big and little the hammer , I had a chain just like that one, I have the same minors pick-hammer- right across the room from me.. so you aren,t really showing us alot.. Better luck next time bub....Bill
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Did Waltz See The Stone Maps?
Peter,
You asked:
"Then there is the question of why a Stone Map of supposedly Mexican/Spanish origin would include Waltz's tools...but dont bother tackling that question yet, I'd be interested in your response to the first."
I doubt you will receive a coherent answer to your question, but I will offer one possiblility. It could be possible that Waltz was aware of the maps that are shown on the Stone Maps. While that comes from a very questionable source, there is something in that source's statements which make me believe it is possible, and that he was who he claimed to be.
I have said a number of times that I believe the LDM is shown on the Stone Maps. There are numerous accepted clues/maps, and stories that point to that distinct possibility.
It is also possible that Waltz's Peralta connection is through another family, less well known. They may also be connected to the Stone Maps, rather than the Peraltas, or with them.
All of this is just another direction to pursue in someone's research. I wonder if Azmula is on such a trail?
Respectfully,
Joe
You asked:
"Then there is the question of why a Stone Map of supposedly Mexican/Spanish origin would include Waltz's tools...but dont bother tackling that question yet, I'd be interested in your response to the first."
I doubt you will receive a coherent answer to your question, but I will offer one possiblility. It could be possible that Waltz was aware of the maps that are shown on the Stone Maps. While that comes from a very questionable source, there is something in that source's statements which make me believe it is possible, and that he was who he claimed to be.
I have said a number of times that I believe the LDM is shown on the Stone Maps. There are numerous accepted clues/maps, and stories that point to that distinct possibility.
It is also possible that Waltz's Peralta connection is through another family, less well known. They may also be connected to the Stone Maps, rather than the Peraltas, or with them.
All of this is just another direction to pursue in someone's research. I wonder if Azmula is on such a trail?
Respectfully,
Joe
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Doubt
Peter,
I don't think I have ever labeled any of your theories as being "nuttier" than mine or anyone elses. As a "Dutch Hunter" you belong to an exclusive (small) club which would be labeled as "nuts" by most of the world. My statement is based on over forty years of hard work and more dollars spent than I care to admit to. I have always said that I could be wrong, and I have always said that you could be right. That is without even knowing the "weight" of evidence that you base your opinions on.
Wyatt has done a fine job of looking down his nose at the members of this forum and needs no help from someone from New York. As I remember, the last guy who snuck in some salsa made in "New York City"
was looking at a necktie party.
I am actually glad that you have paid enough attention to my posts, to judge the value of my theories. Many of the post I have made in the forum have included new directions of research that did not come out of someones LDM book. No doubt you can recall the new directions you have instigated here.
I have the luxury of not being focused on the LDM and being, therefore, open to other possibilities. While that may seem nutty to an old Dutch Hunter like yourself, it has given a novice like me an interesting vision of much of the evidence, maps, stories and bullshit that comes with the legends.
The Stone Maps don't fit into your theory, so they must be fake. With an open mind, all of your information, and evidence fits into the Stone Maps.
You don't find that at all interesting, because you don't want to. I find it interesting because I already know it to be true.
There is no need for you to move into our State slapping the face of everyone you disagree with. A few s would have made your post funny. Once again, Welcome To Arizona.
Respectfully,
Joe
I don't think I have ever labeled any of your theories as being "nuttier" than mine or anyone elses. As a "Dutch Hunter" you belong to an exclusive (small) club which would be labeled as "nuts" by most of the world. My statement is based on over forty years of hard work and more dollars spent than I care to admit to. I have always said that I could be wrong, and I have always said that you could be right. That is without even knowing the "weight" of evidence that you base your opinions on.
Wyatt has done a fine job of looking down his nose at the members of this forum and needs no help from someone from New York.
As I remember, the last guy who snuck in some salsa made in "New York City"was looking at a necktie party.
I am actually glad that you have paid enough attention to my posts, to judge the value of my theories. Many of the post I have made in the forum have included new directions of research that did not come out of someones LDM book. No doubt you can recall the new directions you have instigated here.
I have the luxury of not being focused on the LDM and being, therefore, open to other possibilities. While that may seem nutty to an old Dutch Hunter like yourself, it has given a novice like me an interesting vision of much of the evidence, maps, stories and bullshit that comes with the legends.
The Stone Maps don't fit into your theory, so they must be fake. With an open mind, all of your information, and evidence fits into the Stone Maps.
You don't find that at all interesting, because you don't want to. I find it interesting because I already know it to be true.
There is no need for you to move into our State slapping the face of everyone you disagree with. A few
s would have made your post funny. Once again, Welcome To Arizona.Respectfully,
Joe
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